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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Red face Famous What If ?

Okay so heres the fantasy scenario. Take your common, 2.2 Balt....Add A Cat-Back Exhaust, Header, Downpipe, Under Drive Pulley, 2.4 Manifold, Intake, 2.4 Throttle Body, Stage Two Cams, Tune.....with a shot of n2o (50 shot) Make it an automatic too...After adding all that up whats your ideal estimate of a 1/4 mile time and whp (Flamers Not Welcomed, and Not Looking For the Response Of Why Don't You Do It And Tell Us...)
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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i would guess high 13s....... very low 14s

bump to a 75shot and ur 13s for sure
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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wow i was hoping to hit 13.5-13.7 lol thats my goal with a auto balt...I Will Get There
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
wow i was hoping to hit 13.5-13.7 lol thats my goal with a auto balt...I Will Get There
not even close with the setup you listed. Go big turbo.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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ha no way am i goin turbo if I would do that I wouldve bought an aveo and made the ultimate sleeper lol.......okay maybe not but i have my heart and wallet set on n/a set up
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
ha no way am i goin turbo if I would do that I wouldve bought an aveo and made the ultimate sleeper lol.......okay maybe not but i have my heart and wallet set on n/a set up
Nitrous is not n/a.

If you want to run 13.5 n/a i hope budget is not an issue.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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ha budget wont be the issue...just time I guess, I think that my goal is quite remarkable. A tad high, but possible
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
Okay so heres the fantasy scenario. Take your common, 2.2 Balt....Add A Cat-Back Exhaust, Header, Downpipe, Under Drive Pulley, 2.4 Manifold, Intake, 2.4 Throttle Body, Stage Two Cams, Tune.....with a shot of n2o (50 shot) Make it an automatic too...After adding all that up whats your ideal estimate of a 1/4 mile time and whp (Flamers Not Welcomed, and Not Looking For the Response Of Why Don't You Do It And Tell Us...)
well, hp without the nos and with a shaved head for that for a manual you get 180.16 (so far) i just dynoed that yest with a bad AFR (needs to be raised) so i should be close to if not above 190...
and with that you can keep up and depending on driver beat an lsj a stock lsj and i did a bunch of runs during a group cruise today and it was 50/50 for wins...all driver right now

im going to hit the track in a week and a half, so ill tell you what that gives you...but with nos you should do pretty damned good
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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well, hp without the nos and with a shaved head for that for a manual you get 180.16 (so far) i just dynoed that yest with a bad AFR (needs to be raised) so i should be close to if not above 190...
and with that you can keep up and depending on driver beat an lsj a stock lsj and i did a bunch of runs during a group cruise today and it was 50/50 for wins...all driver right now

im going to hit the track in a week and a half, so ill tell you what that gives you...but with nos you should do pretty damned good
how is your auto making more power than a manual?

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ha budget wont be the issue...just time I guess, I think that my goal is quite remarkable. A tad high, but possible
it's deffinitely possible. just completely not worth it. to spend that much money to just run mid 13's is kinda silly.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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mines a manual, thats what i was saying
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
mines a manual, thats what i was saying
oops, misread.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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so if your making 185-190 to the wheel what would you say it is before that? and with nitrous do you think you just add the shot hp ex (50,75) to the wheel or is it downed a little like our base hp? Say we have 148 or so and its only like 120 or 130 does the hp of a nitrous shot lessen to the wheel?
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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theres only been 2 l61's get into 13s just to let u know, thats with turbo. so 13s n/a prolly will never happen. sorry to break it to u. aim for mid to low 14s
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
Okay so heres the fantasy scenario. Take your common, 2.2 Balt....Add A Cat-Back Exhaust, Header, Downpipe, Under Drive Pulley, 2.4 Manifold, Intake, 2.4 Throttle Body, Stage Two Cams, Tune.....with a shot of n2o (50 shot) Make it an automatic too...After adding all that up whats your ideal estimate of a 1/4 mile time and whp (Flamers Not Welcomed, and Not Looking For the Response Of Why Don't You Do It And Tell Us...)
with all the mods u mentioned, id say you wouldnt have a 1/4 mile time. chances are you wouldnt make it down the track. with just the bolt ons you are near 200whp which traced back to the crank is what 230-240 then the 50shot. with out internals theres a strong chance you might get a few pulls then boom.

but thats just my opinion im not an expert, these motors are strong so you never know.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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are u on crack? 200whp on bolt ons on a 2.2? LMFAO
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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Really Iam Not Gonna Have A 1/4 Mile Time? I Can Have My Dog Pull Me On RollerBlades And I'll Have A 1/4 Mile Time
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:43 AM
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just haters in here. With all those mods listed and a 50 shot with a good tune, you would be in the 13s if you can get it too hook. With all the mods listed without the nitrous would put you around 180whp, 50 shot of nitrous is about 220+whp, thats enough hp for 13's
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
so if your making 185-190 to the wheel what would you say it is before that? and with nitrous do you think you just add the shot hp ex (50,75) to the wheel or is it downed a little like our base hp? Say we have 148 or so and its only like 120 or 130 does the hp of a nitrous shot lessen to the wheel?
we start with about 115-120 stock, and my last dyno with lsj exhaust, clear image header, le5 downpipe and cold air intake i made 154whp. yes i could throw a shot of nos on there..but after as much time as i have spent on this engine its not going to happen lol

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are u on crack? 200whp on bolt ons on a 2.2? LMFAO
not as hard as you think...only N/A it is possible..research my threads...Im almost there

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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Nitrous is not n/a.

If you want to run 13.5 n/a i hope budget is not an issue.
I'm not trying to be an ass or start any crap, but adding nitrous to a car doesn't change the fact that it's n/a. N/A stand for Naturally Aspirated meaning no forced induction i.e. turbo or supercharger. Nitrous is simply a power adder, it has nothing to do with aspiration whatsoever.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
I'm not trying to be an ass or start any crap, but adding nitrous to a car doesn't change the fact that it's n/a. N/A stand for Naturally Aspirated meaning no forced induction i.e. turbo or supercharger. Nitrous is simply a power adder, it has nothing to do with aspiration whatsoever.
right, its not tech N/A but it might as well be
its a "power adder" and thats what matters, saying its not N/A simply implies not all motor power
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
right, its not tech N/A but it might as well be
its a "power adder" and thats what matters, saying its not N/A simply implies not all motor power
I get what ur saying, but that doesn't change the fact that "nitrous is not n/a" is wrong. Big V8's run nitrous and all motor, and they are still n/a. That'd be like saying...."adding that vortex spirally intake charge spinner thing is as good as a turbo"
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
and with nitrous do you think you just add the shot hp ex (50,75) to the wheel or is it downed a little like our base hp?
No, a 50 shot does not mean 50hp added to your whp off the bottle.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
I get what ur saying, but that doesn't change the fact that "nitrous is not n/a" is wrong. Big V8's run nitrous and all motor, and they are still n/a. That'd be like saying...."adding that vortex spirally intake charge spinner thing is as good as a turbo"
right, makes sense, but alot of things dont mean what they mean any more
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
right, makes sense, but alot of things dont mean what they mean any more
Yes, and up is the new down and nitrous is now considered forced induction
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
I get what ur saying, but that doesn't change the fact that "nitrous is not n/a" is wrong. Big V8's run nitrous and all motor, and they are still n/a. That'd be like saying...."adding that vortex spirally intake charge spinner thing is as good as a turbo"
While it's not technically forced induction, majority of the car world considers n/a to not have nitrous. and yes, it's still technically n/a, but most people people consider n/a to be all engine with no power adders.
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