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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Lets talk roll cage!

im starting my crazy build here soon and in the hunt for a good roll cage, the cage is gonna be the heart beat of a full tube chasis so 10 point is where im looking right now.
unfortunitly i wanna still run all my interior plastics and head liner and so on.
just wanna know who has a roll cage, and where you got it, as well can you post pics.
Cage must meet NHRA Standards.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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your best bet is going to be going to a shop who is familiar with the NHRA rule book and knowing what is allowed/required. it's going to cost you
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayta
unfortunitly i hear nothing but negitive feed back about them

Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
your best bet is going to be going to a shop who is familiar with the NHRA rule book and knowing what is allowed/required. it's going to cost you
i know someone who is able tot weld it in cause hes certified, but we want a pre bent kit....

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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Just an FYI the cage has to be certified after its welded and before paint to make sure it conforms to NHRA rules. I'm not sure if their is anyone in your area that can do this, but if you get tech'd at the track and your cage hasn't been certified your out of luck.

Might wanna contact NHRA and see if they can give you a list of shops that can do it near you.

Not sure if you where aware of that or not, but just trying to help out.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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How fast are you trying to go?
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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u will probly only need a rollbar man
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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ask your fried that built the vette and camaro with the "custom roll cage" you talk about in your other thread
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by newt
Just an FYI the cage has to be certified after its welded and before paint to make sure it conforms to NHRA rules. I'm not sure if their is anyone in your area that can do this, but if you get tech'd at the track and your cage hasn't been certified your out of luck.

Might wanna contact NHRA and see if they can give you a list of shops that can do it near you.

Not sure if you where aware of that or not, but just trying to help out.
yea i know this all ready, NHRA doesnt inspect that stuff here anyways. but i know people who are able to stamp it for NHRA

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How fast are you trying to go?
7-9 sec

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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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u will probly only need a rollbar man
ill be making 4 digits! a full cage is needed, i also need to build a full tube chasis.
ill post a build thread once im started so ppl can see how crazy this build is going to be, and its gonna take a while to do so only reason why the thread hasnt started is because i wanna get the cage install that then work on the front part so i have a removable rad support then, i need to get the metal needed to make the frame rails needed to support the monstor heart!

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ask your fried that built the vette and camaro with the "custom roll cage" you talk about in your other thread
hes given me a site already where a 10 point cage is there for $259.99 im just trying to see what people have done for cages and so on.

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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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lol are you seriouos? your trying to run single digits and your going to cheap out on a cage. you just made my day. none the less your not trying to meet spec? dont even bother.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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not to mention if you brake 7.50 a ten point isnt enough and if an nhra inspector passes a 10 point cage for 7.50 or faster he should be instantly fired. you better do some serious research and figure out what you want to do. then build the car to your goal. not guess and hope you make out well.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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if u plan on running 7-9 sec u better have lots of cash flow my friend.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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^^^this too. best be ready to cut back that firewall and shed a **** ton of weight.....not to mention when adding a cage i hope you realize you need to go through the dash to meet spec...this requires cutting your dash later.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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theres already over 20 g in the 2.2 as it is, money is no issue!
im not cheaping out one bit, im just looking for idea and like always people bash ****.
if anyone read, you would see the car is getting a full ******* tube chasis! the car is being welded by certifited people witch NHRA States here as long as a certified welder welds and stamps his work and you have proff of it then you are ok!
im in the middle of building a 9 second civic with a buddy of mine and his passed tech and hes the one doing mine!
plus this car will head to a place in new bruswick where the new chasis is stamped and is approved for street legal!
i have been doing lots of research, and i have lots of freidns who have built 10+ second cars.

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^^^this too. best be ready to cut back that firewall and shed a **** ton of weight.....not to mention when adding a cage i hope you realize you need to go through the dash to meet spec...this requires cutting your dash later.
my glass will be out, my dash will be getting cut i already know this!

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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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theres already over 20 g in the 2.2!
Chris i dont mean to start **** man, but seriously? You honestly expect you are going to run 7-9 seconds? World record for a cobalt is 8secs and thats basically a dragster. You put 20 grand into your car and you are only at 250hp uncorrected. You honestly believe you are going to get into single digits? At your rate you would have to throw down about $75,000 into your car to hit that.

And like someone already said, what you want in your car isnt going to pass tech if you are aiming single digits and trust me, i know, i been to the drag strip, you havent.

Like i said, im not here to start ****, just trying to help you out to keeping your goals realistic. You never been on the strip before, yet u want to put in a roll cage, ok fine...to his, his own. But when you plan for 7-9 sec car...your going to need about another $50,000 minimum to get there. Your car as it stands now would be lucky to hit low to mid 13's.

Just for reference....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Xaz...eature=related

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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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20gs for a 250hp car? Man you have a ways to go. Im not bashing your goals but you best research front wheel drive suspension for the strip and convsider a reversed torque arm or do some serious mods ot convert to rdw. On the stock style suspension 7s isn't going to happen
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Ps civic is totally different. They don't compare. Faster times have been set in hondas then with cobalts too and there's far more aftermarket support
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-10
Chris i dont mean to start **** man, but seriously? You honestly expect you are going to run 7-9 seconds? World record for a cobalt is 8secs and thats basically a dragster. You put 20 grand into your car and you are only at 250hp uncorrected. You honestly believe you are going to get into single digits? At your rate you would have to throw down about $75,000 into your car to hit that.

And like someone already said, what you want in your car isnt going to pass tech if you are aiming single digits and trust me, i know, i been to the drag strip, you havent.

Like i said, im not here to start ****, just trying to help you out to keeping your goals realistic. You never been on the strip before, yet u want to put in a roll cage, ok fine...to his, his own. But when you plan for 7-9 sec car...your going to need about another $50,000 minimum to get there. Your car as it stands now would be lucky to hit low to mid 13's.

Just for reference....

YouTube - DCR / Crawford 8 second Gardella Racing Cobalt

Op has never been to the drag strip?
And he wants to turn his cobalt into a 7 sec street car?

SMARTEN UP
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
Ps civic is totally different. They don't compare. Faster times have been set in hondas then with cobalts too and there's far more aftermarket support
not to mention civics are a hell of alot lighter from factory. Doesnt take much for them to weigh nothing.

Also chris, hope you are looking at more things to do to the car, such as master cut off, racing/fire suits...all that good stuff.

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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Oh and I think youshould seriously look into rod aka victory ss build because its a ton of money and time. I have 39k just into the suspension chassis rear end and safety components on the camaro and its a 25.5 car. Your talking full tube chassis, a rwd conversion and or reverse suspension etc etc. The car will no longer be streetable. I guarentee 100k easily spent
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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well if you want to really get a cage i suggest going to sussex engine rebuilders. i did my work term there for machining and it was by far the best shop i have seen arround new brunswick.

speak with kenny, hes the owner
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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not to mention a 10 point would be a crap basis for a tube chassis if thats your plan....you need to do more looking into cages.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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the car is planned out, no one will understand till it gets started, right now im working on a new motor, witch will be heading to arm strongs to get bored and turned from a 2 bolt to a 4 bolt, in doing so how i have it going it will make it stronger then a normal 4 bolt main motor. as of next season if the cars done by then it will be running on the new motor and what not then im focusing on other things then, going back to where i will build this car into a drag car, but still streetable, theres a drag car up the road from me witch is 9 secs day in and day out, hes helping with the motor, im getting my tranny from Tremic, its gona be a TKO 5spd.
i had talked about this build in the past, been talking to plenty of people about it, all with positive thoughts and wanna make this happpen, i contacted somone who did the same thing with a cavi, but bigger motor and they did it in 6 months with 10 g mind u they had a built motor from the start, the roll cage is needed to keep the body of the car from twisting when i cut the roof out and get a carbon fibre one intalled, this has been done with a blue one in NB right now, witch is where mine will be getting done, also a worker out of henery autobody.
from the cage i will be getting rails made, i been talking to a guy from NB that made a Yanko knock off make over 1300rwhp on a 104mm turbo, that runs 8sec and is still streetable, witch he will be helping with getting me the contact info on where i need to go to make it still streetable.
this car is gonna be simular to victory red ss, minus not a 4cly motor! people can hate and bash all they want, but i will prove you all wrong like when everyone told me i couldnt turbo a 2007 2.2 and did it.
the car would of made more power, everyone has said that by looking at the tune, but it got to rich higher up, and Trifecta fucked me over and robbed me of my money!
i paid for the tuning software witch would allow me to tune my car myself, instead he fucked up and it didnt get done and sent me tunes, and i sent data logs back, and by about the 3rd time around for tuning stuff, he ditched me 100% wouldnt reply to phone calls or e mails. james and troy both stated when i was on the dyno, they easy see 350whp at 15psi , i run 20 on the street, reason why they say 15 was because my car didnt spool past 15psi on the dyno for some reason.
anyways haters can hate, but would be nice for once somone being like man ur crazy but i love your idea and give support.
i been told i should make the 10 point into a 24 point, that way i have all the main bends and all the pre fitteted parts, so from there i can buy the same pipe needed and go from there.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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im not hating at all man and if it comes out it will be really interesting..its just u might regret sinking all that money into it later on cause its gonna be a lot....how much for the tranny btw
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