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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
this is what im talking about u are throwing out numbers and so now everyone thinks well **** hondas arent **** when thats not even a b16 dyno...its a d16yz which is the smallest engine honda has made since 1992...if u dont know what ur talking about dont post the man said b16...period.

Not to be rude, but open your eyes and you would see the last dyno is a comparison to a
b16a, 140whp,102wtq.
I'm sorry I don't know what I am talking about...
For your info, a b16 and a d16 are quite close to the same size, quite close...
And... the new Honda fit has a 1.5L engine, which would be the smallest in recent years.

The first one posted was also a b16a, modded nicely and making some good power.


Just race him already and tell us.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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haha..honda fits make me feel like i'm driving a corvette
seeing as i blow their ****** doors off haha.
all ricers please comment about the K swaps in them..yes they're fast...but hey i'm putting an LS7 in my 2.2 and then i'll be fast too.
not to mention the K's sound worse than weedeaters, literally.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by N/ADC5
Not to be rude, but open your eyes and you would see the last dyno is a comparison to a
b16a, 140whp,102wtq.
I'm sorry I don't know what I am talking about...
For your info, a b16 and a d16 are quite close to the same size, quite close...
And... the new Honda fit has a 1.5L engine, which would be the smallest in recent years.

The first one posted was also a b16a, modded nicely and making some good power.


Just race him already and tell us.
b16(dohc vtec) and a d16(sohc slotec) are no where near the same engine...not even close...just because the displacement are close doesnt mean its the same motor...thats like saying a lt1 and ls1 are the same and u got me on the fit because they dont come with that engine in japan (where i was stationed for the past 4 years) h22 isnt the best build either unless its a straight line car...then yea it would be nice but any kinda turning or swerving threw traffic and things car get a little outta hand..if u wanna go old school with honda the best build would be a b20 or just buy urself a k24

Originally Posted by cobalt9123
haha..honda fits make me feel like i'm driving a corvette
seeing as i blow their ****** doors off haha.
all ricers please comment about the K swaps in them..yes they're fast...but hey i'm putting an LS7 in my 2.2 and then i'll be fast too.
not to mention the K's sound worse than weedeaters, literally.


lol now this would be something nice to see...i'm thinking if u tub the back make it rear wheel drive re-inforce the subframe a **** load and get some massive engine mounts u'll be ready to kill lol...and k24s arent that bad on sound i'm not a big fan of them either but its all about the exhaust..i know someone(not gonna say no names cuz he wants to blow his car up because of it) who bought a dp and the flex hose makes his car sound like a 60's volkswagon bug..

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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
b16(dohc vtec) and a d16(sohc slotec) are no where near the same engine...not even close...just because the displacement are close doesnt mean its the same motor.....

Yes, I know. It's just that you made reference to the size, not the technology.
You were mean to me, so I fired back, simple internet ethics...

The truth is, a terrible driver can fubar any fast car.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by N/ADC5
Yes, I know. It's just that you made reference to the size, not the technology.
You were mean to me, so I fired back, simple internet ethics...

The truth is, a terrible driver can fubar any fast car.
ok im sorry...lol anyways LSJ FTMFW
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by josh22
Im just wondering has anyone with an SS/sc raced a honda with a b16? I have a friend who has a 95 civic hatch, he did a b16 swap and has intake and exhaust. i have an 05 ss/sc with cai and exhaust. if we were to race would he beat me? He has been talking a lot of trash saying his car is alot faster than mine. Just looking for any info before we race. Thanks
i actually just saw this race the other day.. sad to say the hatch won
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fbaero10
i actually just saw this race the other day.. sad to say the hatch won
how odd, don't know what that hatch had in it or the ss/sc either.
SS/SC's aren't slow..
The ss/sc in my town(some know as sssleeper) beat a 350Z easy, supposively SMOKED his ass, lol. and they're not slow cars.
He doesn't even have stage 2 i think just STG1.
Anyways, theres a SOM ss/sc that raced a hatch with a b16 swap(my friend) that has exhaust and headers and CAI, some clutch/tranny upgrades too, and the ss/sc just exhaust,
Thankful to say, the ss/sc walked him by 3 cars

oh and neither of them missed a gear, and my friend in the b16 hatch is an excellent driver, he also has a 05 rsx type s

so that excludes driver mods./messups

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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That **** makes me laugh.. I had a 91 hatch with a b 16 a1, not the piece of **** 80's b16. Cams exhaust in take others gutted to the fullest running 15-16 all day. Sold it now have 06 ss/sc with cold air, exhause 42mm injectors running-13.5-14.0. Stock 14.6. Hondas are cool.bUT, HONESTLY THAT CAR AT MAX HAS A 170 HORSES NAD 1.6 LITER AT THAT. i=If it was fully built than that would be a diff story
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BjS GbALT
That **** makes me laugh.. I had a 91 hatch with a b 16 a1, not the piece of **** 80's b16. Cams exhaust in take others gutted to the fullest running 15-16 all day. Sold it now have 06 ss/sc with cold air, exhause 42mm injectors running-13.5-14.0. Stock 14.6. Hondas are cool.bUT, HONESTLY THAT CAR AT MAX HAS A 170 HORSES NAD 1.6 LITER AT THAT. i=If it was fully built than that would be a diff story
you sir cant drive worth a **** then.... anyone who knows **** about hondas knows that if u have a b16a1 with that stuff done in a 91 hatch u will run faster than a 15-16 any day of the week

no offense but it was either driver error or ur car was messed up


oh and just because "your buddy" has a b16 in his car doesnt mean **** coulple questions u gotta ask yourself what kind of car is it in and how much does the car weigh compared to the car at the begginning of this thread

2000lbs and 2600 lbs is a huge difference
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 06sscobalt
i think you will take him..if u can drive.. i raced an integra with a b16 and his motor is buitl! and he onyl took me by about 2 maybe 2 1/2 cars from a dig its my top end that killed me. if ur s/c u have good top end and should pull him
First of all why would you down grade brom a b18 to a b16? b16 have less torque that LS b18. anyways you should beat him atleast 2 cars. i races a worked sohc vtec and blew his doors in by 7-8 cars.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CbYellowSS
you sir cant drive worth a **** then.... anyone who knows **** about hondas knows that if u have a b16a1 with that stuff done in a 91 hatch u will run faster than a 15-16 any day of the week

no offense but it was either driver error or ur car was messed up


oh and just because "your buddy" has a b16 in his car doesnt mean **** coulple questions u gotta ask yourself what kind of car is it in and how much does the car weigh compared to the car at the begginning of this thread

2000lbs and 2600 lbs is a huge difference
yeah exactly. some people just need to go to the tracks. i hate to say it but a gutted hatch with an engine swap your looking at 14s.. ive seen a gutted hatch with a h23 swap. not even the h22.. (for those of you thats a prelude si non vtec) and with bolt ons it was running low 13s..
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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i feel like a ricer even reading this
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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power to weight ratio and driver error are the only things that come into play.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by josh22
Im just wondering has anyone with an SS/sc raced a honda with a b16? I have a friend who has a 95 civic hatch, he did a b16 swap and has intake and exhaust. i have an 05 ss/sc with cai and exhaust. if we were to race would he beat me? He has been talking a lot of trash saying his car is alot faster than mine. Just looking for any info before we race. Thanks
you should beat him just run your car all the way to 6 grand and shift. because they redline at like 9 somthing and we redline at 8 but its all about who gets there first. you should kill him. my and a buddy ran a guy with a turbo accord and killed it you should be good.

just run him.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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My neighbor had a fully built b16 and every time we raced it was the same result.

I would get him off the line, he would start to pull right before I would shift, then my next gear would put him a few more cars back

Oh this was with my n2o
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by elementality814
power to weight ratio and driver error are the only things that come into play.
Not quite.
Power is a factor, but gearing plays a big role too.
Driver error I would say is the biggest factor, even on the drag strip.
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