This crap is getting so damn old. SRT-4's aren built by Gods nor are they all 13 second cars stock. I am sure if someone beat the living hell out of a SS someone would hit a 13.?? also. But with the rareity of the SS and the fact that most SS's are being paid for by the driver I don't see these beating happening.

I wouldn't consider a car that runs two 13.?? and 20 14.?? a 13 second car.

 

CODYSS-Check out the SRTforums, there are tons of posts with guys 13.6-13.99 all stock!

 

You're wasting your time with CodySS. He just plain out cannot accept the FACT that just about every (factory lemons excepted) SRT-4 is capable of running in the 13's straight from the factory. And it doesn't take beating the snot out of it either, as there have been MANY owners able to pilot thier SRT-4 into the 13's. Whether or not the Cobalt SS/SC is capable of a 13, stock, is yet to be seen.

Once I figured out how to launch my car, stock, it ran consistant 13.8's and 13.9's, and even one 13.7. Better than 90% of the time it'd run a 13.8 or 13.9, and the remaining times I screwed up the launch or miss-shifted.

The bottom line is CodySS has a big mouth, with no intention of stepping up to the plate. He'd rather just bash SRT-4's and pat himself on the back and tell himself that he his Cobalt is faster. What he needs to figure out is that the lie you tell yourself is the worst kind of lie there is, as it just makes you look like a fool when you try to argue your lie, and you're the only one that believes it.

 

Me being an SS owner does not believe this car is capable of a 13.99, unless using slicks. The s/c power makes it difficult to get good, consistent 60ft times. I believe the best mine would do on street tires is a 14.4. Unless CodySS has a factory freak!

 

Trust me---I see reactions times MUCH worse then that. Most pepple wait for the green light----go on the last yellow.

Now is the lights at yhour track set up for 0.00 perfect reaction time or .500???

If it was 0.500 your damn good. If it as 0.00 your pretty good.

I have got two perfect reation times one on 0.500 and one on a 0.00--of copurse its all luck But I am usally very, very close.

 

i can say that reaction times dont matter in the quarter mile et. i went to track raced my freind and prolly crossed the line bout 2 car lengths ahead. he had a bad et and our cars were bout the same in power and he still got a better et than me.

 

ill admit it, srt4's are faster, its proven

but speed is about a lot more than power

would a SS beat a car with 1000whp and 1000 ftlbs of torque?
if the thing couldnt get traction

could it beat a 8000 work truck with 600hp?
of course

 

Not if it's a diesel

My friend's diesel (probably ~7000lbs) puts down about 450whp, but about 1000ftlbs of torque. Having ridden in it, I have no doubt that it could muster a sub 14 second 1/4 mile.

Here's a truck that's probably pretty close to 8000lbs probably pushing a little more than 600hp, but not much more. Torque, it gets the job done.
http://www.dragonsys.org/files/videos/F350Run.wmv

More here:
http://dieselinnovations.com/index.htm (in the gallery).

 

LOL I love this guy. Ok so you own "mystery SRT-4's" on the street all the time and then what do you do? You come home and hide behind your keyboard! Now if you want to stop "hiding behind your keyboard" then post a video of one of these "kills" or post some timeslips. I think every SRT-4 owner on here has told you that if you prove it, we will give you props. The only reason why you wouldn't want to is because you know it isn't true.

 

I’m at the point where I’m thinking about getting together a couple of donors, and paying for someone to race CodySS at a drag strip. I can’t believe no one from the SRT-4 sites has stepped up and challenged the guy. Can one of your SRT-4 guys get something together, it would end all of this misery.

 

Problem is Cody already said he wont' take his SS to the strip; hence the "CodySS = All Talk, No Walk" motto.

 

[QUOTE=mchat]The only one on here thats ever claimed to beat an SRT-4 is you.

Wrong you are! I have raced 4 SRT4's, beat 2 and lost to 2. The ones I beat it was a total a$$ whipping, so I figured driver error on there part. The 2 I lost to, the ACR pulled about 3/4 of a car length before we shut down. Guy seemed okay, he gave me the thumbs up. The other SRT4 beat me bad. I only had the car for 3 weeks and had no clue how to launch it. He was a total dick, talking all kinds of smack afterwards! Never dump the clutch if expect to win any races!!

 

Find out where he lives, and we'll just drive around till we see him. This needs to come to an end. I don't care who wins, I just want it to stop. Someone go on their SRT-4 forum and rally the troops.

 

and notice how everytime it is the same people?

 

That's an old post. IIRC at the time he was the only one claiming to beat an SRT-4. Of course he IS the only one to claim to beat ANY and ALL SRT-4's he's come across. I guess he hasn't learned that driving by the Dodge Dealership and revving at the empty SRT-4's in the parking lot does not constitute racing.

The burden of proof is upon him, however he has been unable to deliver. I've seen clean glass windows less transparent than his lies.

 

Never once dissagreed that CodySS is living in a dream world! Maybe he has no track to go to in Nebraska? It is pretty sparse over there!

 

All right listen up here, I am not a biased person at all but listen. I have raced two stock srt-4's won 1 and lost 1, like someone said before if the srt-4=GOOD then the srt-4 will spank a cobalt ss/sc I know it has happened to me. Codyss do not post again on here until you have proof you beat an srt-4 with a good driver. PLain and Simple! There is no post that will combat this so post it or leave.

 

I have raced 3 SRT-4's in my Cobalt one was 100% stock the other two were not.

I beat the stock one to 110mph so what, one of the others was running 18psi so it was no real contest. The other modded one was driven by an idiot and blew his head gasket to holy hell when were messing around. I guess he tried to play back yard mechanic so now his car sits motionless without warranty or money to fix it.

Do you really think it's that hard to match a STOCK SRT-4 on the street with a STOCK Cobalt SS. Even if a SRT-4 was tested to be .5 quicker most of the novice SRT-4 drivers could waste that advantage.

My best time in my Camaro is 12.69 but do I run that 100% of the time, NO!


Oh, And don't frickin tell me not to post.

 

It's not a matter that should include thinking if you have the same driver race a srt-4, then a cobalt it will be showed that the srt-4 is faster. The only reason you or I have ever won a race against a srt-4 is because the driver sucked. Think about it and when you realize that if you ever raced an srt-4 with a good driver you will lose no questions asked end of story. So your war stories which include you beating any srt-4 is a fluke it will not happen with a good driver I would put 2,000.00 dollars on it. Any srt-4 owner reading this feel free to voice your opinions on how stupid this 10 year old is.

 

Is it your contention that the Cobalt SS/SC is faster than the SRT-4, or that you’ve just been a better driver than the guys you’ve raced? Furthermore if you’re so confident in your skills, why won’t you race some of these guys at the strip? Don’t you realize that when you talk, but won’t back it up, people are going to doubt your stories?

Now your probably going to say “hey what do I care what you think, I know what happened?” Well if your goal is to live in your dream world than that logic works, but if you want respect from the members of this board, and others in the automotive community you can’t be afraid to lay it on the line. What’s the worst thing that could happen?

 

Lets see...the srt4 came out in 2003... the CSS came out this year...who would have more novice drivers?

 

That logic might work if you got every SRT-4 owner, and every Cobalt owner toghether at one time and had a huge drag competition. However, on any given day there is a high degree of probablity that the guy your racing on the street has no more experience than you. Remember if people don't race from a dig, their not going to be good at it, no matter how long they've owned their cars.

Furthermore racing skill is something that can't carry over from a previous car. Feathering the clutch, and shifiting are things that are necissary in most sports cars, so if you've done it before you can do it in the new car. Don't get me wrong seat time in a new car is important, but not the end all be all of drag skills.

 

Well I know if all things were 100% equal the SRT-4 has the advantage. But not enough to make up for things like shifting to late/soon or traction. A race between these two cars could come down to traction anytime.

As for my driving, I would consider myself better than most people I run into on the street. I have frequented the track in my Mustangs and F-Bodies for quite awhile. And also have at least 6 sub 11 second passes under my belt in one of our project cars.

Racing 14 second cars is no big deal to me at all.

 

Seems like you have a-lot of experience and you know what you are talking about, but then one must ask why does this guy think the race is about traction, he knows the srt-4 is faster and a good driver will not have traction issue (I'm confused here codyss). By the way exactly what development team let you drive a sub 11 car, I thought the other day you had a 12 second camaro, and everyone who has ever owned a camaro knows the mustang is not a car they would drive or purchase. I am calling b.s. here codyss post pics.

 

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Would it be fair to call you a very experienced drag racer? If so, I think it weakens your argument that it's a driver’s race between the SRT-4 and the SS. Yes technically the driver could make the difference between the winner and loser, but generally speaking a "drivers race" means two drivers of similar competency going at it, always being decided by the driver who had the better run. Not necessarily a very experienced driver vs. some young kid who goes from light to light on occasion, because the experienced driver is always going to have the better run.

Within your definition of drivers race, you could make the claim that it’s a drivers race between the SS and several cars that the SS really doesn’t stand a chance against. In other words, I’ve seen people in Vetts who were inexperienced drivers make passes in the 15.00’s. Clearly you’re not going to make the assertion that a race between the SS and a Vet is a driver’s race?

All of racing is going to be tempered by the skill of the driver behind the wheel. For someone who doesn’t know how to drive their Lotus, it would be very easy for a good Auto X driver to beat them around the course in a Mini Cooper. Knowing this is possible would you consider the competition a driver’s race?

As in all of reality, everything is relative to the situation. It truly is unfair for you to consider it a driver’s race when it appears that you have superior drag racing skills, to the people your beating. If you were driving their SRT-4’s and they your SS, would it be fair to say you would beat them by a greater margin than if the cars were reversed?