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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Well guys I am heading to the track this Saturday and it will be my first time to a track, ever. I was just wondering what suggestions you guys have to make my first experience good. I was told the first time not to expect much but I am hoping to atleast trap 100 mph (to get on their 100 mph club - free stickers ) and run high 13s. I have two jumpers made up for the cooling mod to run my pump and fans while I am there. I am also taking some ice packs that I can lay on the blower as well. Weather is going to be about 90° and the track is open 10am-4pm. I am going to try to run early as I can before the serious heat hits.

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- Stage 2 with 2.9" pulley
- Airbox mod - Dryflow
- ZZP downpipe with cat
- GM cat-back
- Ingalls
- Tires - Falken FK 452 (maybe 2000 miles on them) 225/45/18

I will update this when I get my slips, just asking for help/comments. Thanks a lot!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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thats pretty close to my mods list, and i have no trouble at all pulling a 2.3 60' (thats not good)

but i guess you should try lowering the tire pressure to 25ish psi, and dont do a burnout in the water pit. try to drive around it and not get your tires wet.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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thats pretty close to my mods list, and i have no trouble at all pulling a 2.3 60' (thats not good)

but i guess you should try lowering the tire pressure to 25ish psi, and dont do a burnout in the water pit. try to drive around it and not get your tires wet.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to do a burnout or not. I heard its pointless on street tires. Are you still on the stockers pulling 2.3 60'? I am hoping for a 2.2-2.3 but I have never really launched it hard taking 1st to redline. Iv been driving stick since I was 16, every car I owned was a stick, just haven't taken one to the track. Always wanted to take my modden z24, but now that I have the balt I def. am. I will def. let you guys know how I do, just the heat is gonna kill me.

The track is Beaver Springs and they have like 22 cars in the sport compact section of their 100 mph club online. There is an '07 on there that trapped 100.25.

Is high 13s a decent guess for my mods? Anyone else have any times they ran with similar mods?

bump for the evening crew

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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yeah. the only difference between my mods, (at the time of this slip) and yours are: aem intake, no ingalls, stock tires (no stage 2, aftermarket w/ dyno tune)


BUT, the biggest difference, was that i ran my car in march @ 50*

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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I dont think its impossible to hit high 13's when you go. Just make sure you put in enough runs to get comfortable at the track. Only thing I would recommend is dont drop the clutch and watch for second gear, it comes up really fast. hehe.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BriantheLion26
I wasn't sure if I wanted to do a burnout or not. I heard its pointless on street tires. Are you still on the stockers pulling 2.3 60'? I am hoping for a 2.2-2.3 but I have never really launched it hard taking 1st to redline. Iv been driving stick since I was 16, every car I owned was a stick, just haven't taken one to the track. Always wanted to take my modden z24, but now that I have the balt I def. am. I will def. let you guys know how I do, just the heat is gonna kill me.

The track is Beaver Springs and they have like 22 cars in the sport compact section of their 100 mph club online. There is an '07 on there that trapped 100.25.

Is high 13s a decent guess for my mods? Anyone else have any times they ran with similar mods?

bump for the evening crew
you should be close to mid 13s on a good cool night. and if you can manage a 2.25 60' or lower.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Yeah , good time. I know the heat is gonna kick my ass. I want to go in the fall when it cools down and hopefully I will atleast have the cobra heat exhanger on. I would like to do that as soon as possible, doesn't seem to difficult. I might get the bwoody brackets so that is one less thing I would have to fab up. Blown 4-Bangers how-to seems pretty good on the cobra h/e I just wasn't 100% sure how all the lines run from the pump to stock exchanger to cobra and back, including the manifold.

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I dont think its impossible to hit high 13's when you go. Just make sure you put in enough runs to get comfortable at the track. Only thing I would recommend is dont drop the clutch and watch for second gear, it comes up really fast. hehe.
Yeah, clutch seems to be good, I took off pretty hard the other night, might of hit 5000-5500 and slammed 2nd and it chirped pretty good. I don't beat the car, at all. I get 32 mpg on the gm stage 2 tune every fill up. I hope I can pull 13s at 102ish and I'll be happy for 90° weather.

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you should be close to mid 13s on a good cool night. and if you can manage a 2.25 60' or lower.
The tires seem to grip really well, lot better than the stock ones. Well I will see what kind of driver I am, the 60' doesn't lie. If I can't even pull a 2.3 I'll mind as well give it up ha ha. I'm gonna try the tires at like 25 psi in the front and take the back up, maybe 40ish.

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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watch the video anamolous made in the how-to section for weight reduction

you can take out aboout 150ish pounds in like 20 mins.

1.5 secs off your ET
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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watch the video anamolous made in the how-to section for weight reduction

you can take out aboout 150ish pounds in like 20 mins.

1.5 secs off your ET
Sorry but I think weight reduction is just stupid. Anyone can strip weight out but is that how you really drive the car normally? Sure I can put a 35 shot on it too just for the track but that isn't how the car is all the time. Plus I am taking a friend along, guess she could ride in the trunk right? I don't mean to sound like an ass I just don't think weight reduction is a viable reason to shave off time.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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its all good man... its just an easy way to get that number lower thats all.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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its all good man... its just an easy way to get that number lower thats all.
I know, I just want to see what it can do the way it sits. Hopefully I can get a run or two in before noon, track is open at 10, so it isn't too hot out.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tlax23
watch the video anamolous made in the how-to section for weight reduction

you can take out aboout 150ish pounds in like 20 mins.

1.5 secs off your ET
you mean .15 seconds off your e.t
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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you mean .15 seconds off your e.t
Ha yeah, I highly doubt weight will take off 1.5 seconds lol. 1.5 tenths, same thing. I am assuming since I am on the stage 2 tune there is no reason to use anything above 93 octane? I always use 93 and I have a bottle of octane boost, not that it will do anything, but I got one.

Anyone ever get timed at Beaver this season or previous seasons?

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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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just run 93 and you will be fine, careful if you run into wheel hop short shift to the next gear.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Actually, and this is going to sound so ricer but I swear it's true, NOS Octane boost actually works. It is supposed to raise your octane number by six numbers. That's not 6 octane points, but full numbers. (10 octane points = 1 octane number and most boosters claim they will raise you 10 points...the NOS stuff claims 60 points)

Now, I was seeing a little nock in my early setup and decided to try this NOS stuff to see if it worked. I don't know if it raised my 91 octane fuel up to 97, but I CAN tell you the Knock went away and I've only been able to do that by using 100 octane race fuel. It's not cheap, about $12.00 a bottle and it won't treat more than 12 gallons IIRC, but it worked for me and I was VERY skeptical.

As for wanting to run in street trim... :

My 12.4 in my signature was ran in full street trim just like the car is driven every day. I, like you, have a thing about wanting to see what the car will do the way I drive it on the street. I know some guys who say they have a 12 second street car then you ask them what they did at the track and you find out they pulled interior, put on slicks, jacked up the rear suspension, ran 100 octane race fuel, swapped pullies, etc, etc, etc...Well, you put all that back on and put it back to street trim and the car is mid 13s. I figure it as they have a mid 13 street car than can be turned into a 12 second track car. Like you said, not like you're going to say "Hey, can you wait about a half hour while I prep my car to race you?" LOL
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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if your setup is already knocking then yes it will help you, but if you are not it is worthless
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Actually, and this is going to sound so ricer but I swear it's true, NOS Octane boost actually works. It is supposed to raise your octane number by six numbers. That's not 6 octane points, but full numbers. (10 octane points = 1 octane number and most boosters claim they will raise you 10 points...the NOS stuff claims 60 points)

Now, I was seeing a little nock in my early setup and decided to try this NOS stuff to see if it worked. I don't know if it raised my 91 octane fuel up to 97, but I CAN tell you the Knock went away and I've only been able to do that by using 100 octane race fuel. It's not cheap, about $12.00 a bottle and it won't treat more than 12 gallons IIRC, but it worked for me and I was VERY skeptical.

As for wanting to run in street trim... :

My 12.4 in my signature was ran in full street trim just like the car is driven every day. I, like you, have a thing about wanting to see what the car will do the way I drive it on the street. I know some guys who say they have a 12 second street car then you ask them what they did at the track and you find out they pulled interior, put on slicks, jacked up the rear suspension, ran 100 octane race fuel, swapped pullies, etc, etc, etc...Well, you put all that back on and put it back to street trim and the car is mid 13s. I figure it as they have a mid 13 street car than can be turned into a 12 second track car. Like you said, not like you're going to say "Hey, can you wait about a half hour while I prep my car to race you?" LOL
Yeah I totally agree. I want to see what it does on a normal basis, how it is all the time. I got STP booster, it was like 2-3 bucks at walmart, why not. If it gets me to 94, cool. I am going to run about 1/4 tank so if it takes 15 gal of 93-94 i think 1/4 of 93 should go a little higher. I just want to see if I can jump ahead of the '07 ss/sc that has 100.25 on the 100 mph club list on their site. http://www.beaversprings.com/100mphclub.html
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you will trap over 100 if you know how to drive it is not that hard just don't try to come out of the hole hard, just come out as fast as you can without losing traction and the rest is history
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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you will trap over 100 if you know how to drive it is not that hard just don't try to come out of the hole hard, just come out as fast as you can without losing traction and the rest is history
Yeah that is what I figured. I might take it easy the first run or two, I am paranoid about the axles. Most people can run a 2.0-2.4 60' and still trap over 100, just the ET blows. Once I trap a good trap then I will work on the 60'. I am hoping for 2.2 but we will see. Yeah if I can get off the line, who can't slam 2nd? I have missed 3rd before, when I first got it, but I don't run the car hard at all, almost never ran people, unless they pester me.

I guess the '07 owner that is on the list isn't a member on here. I am assuming you need stage 2 to trap 100 or is it possible stock? He was on there a while I thought and 07's wernt out all that long where they? I guess he doens't have to be stock, who knows.

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it has been done stock by a few people i believe. Yeah i trap 106+ and still run 14.30's
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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it has been done stock by a few people i believe. Yeah i trap 106+ and still run 14.30's
Really? What is your set up? Man I was hoping for 13s, I guess I should just hope for a 14.2 or something so I don't break my heart.
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spinning is not winning..neither is hopping
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Lucus Octane booster is great as well
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Really? What is your set up? Man I was hoping for 13s, I guess I should just hope for a 14.2 or something so I don't break my heart.
let's just say my pulley is smaller than my exhaust and i have lots of mods to help it
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it has been done stock by a few people i believe. Yeah i trap 106+ and still run 14.30's
I only seen one stock time slip with someone trapping at 100mph. That was me, not trying to brag or anything but as far as I know that is true.

You want suggestions? This comming from a good driver in a cobalt ss/sc. I ran a 13.6 @ 107 with a 2.3 60" with GM stage II, GMP exhaust, CAI, and Ingall's ETD. I do not think you will have a problem hitting 13s. Now, it is going to be very hot. I'm going to PM you some info.
BTW, If you wheel hop get off the gas! You do not want to break!

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it has been done stock by a few people i believe. Yeah i trap 106+ and still run 14.30's
what kind of 60"? Man I bet your car is a mid 13 second car with better traction!

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