With some good traction I don't see that being too far out of your reach. If I had to guess i would say 12.9-13.1. I can't see you going deep into the 12s but high 12s is still awesome. Good luck bud.

 

eh, we'll see. I think it will be faster than 12.9. I will be dissappointed if that's all I get. With the added power, I should be able to cut sub 2.0 60ft.'s easily. 1.8 doesn't seem too far fetched. And with a trap speed close to 110, I can see the car going 12.5/6 easily.

 

Lets hope. Not sure if the car will have the power, but only time will tell. I dont know what all I could change in my tune for the track. I think 11.7-11.9 at 25.5° is aggressive enough. Not sure what else is left in it with the mods I have.

 

well, I could have easily gotten 13.3/4 out of the car as it sits. That's with stock pulley, header, dp. I'm adding pulley, header, catless dp, more cooling, and an even better tune than before. Realistic gains I would say would be 5+mph gain in the 1/8th and about 8+mph gain in the quarter. That should be plenty to hit high 7's to 8.0 in the 1/8th and mid 12's. I don't think power will be an issue for me anymore.

 

Well I wish you the best of luck. Let me know how you do, I look foward to seeing your results.

What afr/timing do you plan to run?

 

I depends on what Area47 says is the best. The tune I'm on right now, I sit at 12.5:1 afr and 25+ degrees timing. But like I said already, Area47 is tuning it this time.

 

there is more power to be had. 12.5 is **** for afr.

you have two options.
A. run the meth mix i run, and pick up power. or B. richen it up.
both will require a retune.

 

I'm going to need a retune anyway with all the parts I'm adding. and I plan on doing whatever you suggest to get the most power.

 

Hey bud, you think I ran it pretty decent at the track? 11.7-11.9 at 25.5* aggressive enough?

Bastard! He gives you some tricks but not me!

*walks to corner and cries now*

 

I'm paying for it.

 

Guess that helps!

He definitely knows what the heck hes doin.

 

back the timing down a degree or two.

 

25.5° is too much? I just had it like that for at the track. DD I have it at 11.6 and 21-22° if I remember correctly.

Hopefully I can get this out of you Area... how would you set my car up for track days? Just AFR and timing, I doubt you will give out more than that.

 

Im not Area but, my tune that netted me the most hp and trq, i went with a ramping afr from 11.5 low end building up to a 12.2-12.3 afr and 24 degrees of timing. My car started to lose power at anything above 25*.
Damn nice back half of the 1320.

 

Thanks man.

I never tried messing with ramping up the AFR or timing at all. I just had it set to command 11.9 in PE (getting 11.7-11.9 actual) and 25-26 degrees through the whole run.

 

ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

 

Lol Area!!
Please, knowing you, you have some other insane method to make a **** ton of power on anything you tune. And what upsets me more is that you dont share!! LOL
I have to dissect any dyno sheets you post to even get anytyhing close to an idea on how YOU tuned the damn thing, lol.

 

Haha. I am hoping he can share some info to help us out. Everyone knows he knows his ****, I think that was covered 934323 days ago.

So what does the master think of ramping up the AFR instead of commanding a certain afr all the way through the rpm range in pe?

 

Well one thing Area did teach me is, make the timing table as smooth as you can. My old timing table used to be a huge chunk of it at 25, car actually made more power ramping it.
Matter of fact i dont think i ever thanks Area for that....

 

Yeah, I know I've always heard smooth is the key. I probably should take a look at my timing table. I am half afraid to post it, you two would probably just laugh.

 

Very doubtful, you havent seen my old tunes, lol.
As for AFR ramping is concerned i think the formula was rich best trq, lean best hp. That and dissecting dynos from anyone with decent power numbers, you can actually see the transition from when they start leaning the car up. Thats how i came to that idea. But maybe Area will chime in. I would say im a DECENT tuner at best. Area, Al, Dan, And 06black i would prolly consider top tier, lol. Theres a few others...but im sure you know all im talking about.

 

Yeah, there are some good tuners on the site. I guess I just need to get some dyno time so I can see what my car actually likes.

 

Anything above 12.0 AFR is begging to roast your pistons and for the minute gain you might get from it , its hardly worth a new motor

Also water should always be 50% of your mixture, everyone knows that running stupid **** like 90% meth and 10% water is just adding fuel and its taking away from the purpose of what water injection is for and thats to be a knock suppressant which allows you to run more timing. Every single vendor that makes the kits will tell you that. Also Methanol has a very very low flash point, so if you want to set your engine on fire, go right ahead.

I think too many people put FAR too much trust in one individual on this site whose suggestions are borderline dangerous to both the longevity of the motor and a fire hazard instead of actually researching and finding the truth themselves.

 

::looks at dyno numbers::

lol!