What would win?
This is assuming both drivers are equal and that cars weight the exact same:twothumbs
Car A = 260whp and 235tq 5-Speed and S/C Car B = 280whp and 210tq 6-Speed and T/C Race A) From a Dig? Race B) from a 40 roll? |
Car A = you
Car B = honduh???? |
I don't think it would be so much of who would win because of peak hp or peak tq. It would be more of who has the better usable power band in each scenario.
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Depends on how far you're going up to, and the gearing of the cars. I'd say Car B though.
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Originally Posted by OzzyruleZ
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I don't think it would be so much of who would win because of peak hp or peak tq. It would be more of who has the better usable power band in each scenario.
Car B spools a bit and has a half ass tune so tq curve is fluxuating bit of info added to post 1 |
Originally Posted by Altiery54
(Post 3039740)
interesting. ok Car A hits full boost instantly and has a nice tq curve all he way to 7K
Car B spools a bit and has a half ass tune so tq curve is fluxuating bit of info added to post 1 Depends on how fast you're going up to. In the top end he will win. |
OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4. Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually. |
Originally Posted by roadrage06
(Post 3039744)
OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4. Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually. |
Originally Posted by roadrage06
(Post 3039744)
OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4. Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
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I dunno. I think car B would have an easier time launching his car and wouldn't get the immediate wheel hop that the torquier car would. I'd say car b for both actually.
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Originally Posted by Altiery54
(Post 3039756)
no i'm actually looking for different technicalities. idk who actually wins but what the benifits to each are.
From a dig, I still think the SC'ed car would lose, simply because the SC car is putting down its torque too fast and spinning the tires, making the driver have to let off to stop A) the clutch from slipping or B) from getting too much wheel hop (or C, both), The TC'ed car wouldn't have to let off as hard as the other car and would be spooling that turbo pretty quickly, due tot he shortness of most 1st gears.
Originally Posted by Altiery54
(Post 3039756)
thats what i think and from the roll i think the tq in car a from a 40 would be able to get a good enough jump on car B so that car B wont catch up till its to late.
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
(Post 3039762)
From a lower roll the sc'ed car would do well due to the instant boost and 25 more ft lbs of torque, but the turbo car, which is meant to gain breath up top, would definitely start pulling pretty quickly, if not immediately.
From a dig, I still think the SC'ed car would lose, simply because the SC car is putting down its torque too fast and spinning the tires, making the driver have to let off to stop A) the clutch from slipping or B) from getting too much wheel hop (or C, both), The TC'ed car wouldn't have to let off as hard as the other car and would be spooling that turbo pretty quickly, due tot he shortness of most 1st gears. Me and my buddy from town always always talk back and fourth and this spring we are actually gonna race at the track!! Me Awesome Tq. and hp curve ya'll know my mods Him 09 si Greddy Turbo 8psi Full exhaust so it shall be interesting
Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
(Post 3039762)
Yeah this is a definitely possibility. Like I said, depends on how fast its planned on going. The longer the race, the less of a chance the SC car would have of winning. |
Originally Posted by Altiery54
(Post 3039767)
interestin. 1) bewst limit in 1st for s/c car;) and driver mod on my part but or the sake of the arguement i said drivers race BackStory
Me and my buddy from town always always talk back and fourth and this spring we are actually gonna race at the track!! Me Awesome Tq. and hp curve ya'll know my mods Him 09 si Greddy Turbo 8psi Full exhaust so it shall be interesting on the streets never longer than 110 ever. all races will be at track except hte roll an FI K20 usually makes over 300whp. Interesting. 110...ehhh...I can see that going either way actually. It will be close. |
Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
(Post 3039770)
Ah I see. Boost limit in 1st gear would definitely help things. It won't be too far off, but if your buddy gets a good launch, I'd have to put my money on him.
an FI K20 usually makes over 300whp. Interesting. 110...ehhh...I can see that going either way actually. It will be close. |
Hmm it could be interesting. If his power band isn't screwed up to bad the high revs the honda is capable of might just give him an edge up top. I think he might mph you up top, I think you're going to have to rely on a good 60' time honestly.
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it has to be car... B =)
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who ever knows how to drive
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B should win
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you really cant be 100% sure...it depends on wieght, gear ratios, whether the guy with the turbo was power shifting, or letting it loose boost, whether either of you could drive...
but given optimal senarios and if both cars weighed the same and both were driven by someone that knew how to drive....then the t/c would win |
There is a reason it takes the SS/TC 300+WHP to trap 105MPH and why the SS/SC can do it with about 270WHP. Its all in the torque curve and powerband.
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:spam:okay chris..... just stop bitching..... take out your spare tire.... install a bottle... and spray the piss out of your car and he will be wondering why his VtECHh is failing...or dont spray, and if he pulls ahead- just give tell him your clutch slipped (noone likes to lose to a honda):spam:
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Originally Posted by car_fanatic
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it has to be car... B =)
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Originally Posted by stage2
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chuck norris drives cobalts....into the ground with his fists.
chuck norris built the house he was born in. |
Originally Posted by ericgt79
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chuck norris drives cobalts....into the ground with his fists.
chuck norris built the house he was born in. to the OP, i honestly couldn't tell ya. cause i'm stock and just beat a '95 LT1 Z28 with headers, full exhaust no cats, intake, and valvesprings... i beat him from a dig AND a 40 roll. so i really don't know |
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