View Poll Results: Which Car Will Win
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What would win?
10-29-2008, 07:42 AM
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What would win?
This is assuming both drivers are equal and that cars weight the exact same
Car A = 260whp and 235tq 5-Speed and S/C
Car B = 280whp and 210tq 6-Speed and T/C
Race A) From a Dig?
Race B) from a 40 roll?
Car A = 260whp and 235tq 5-Speed and S/C
Car B = 280whp and 210tq 6-Speed and T/C
Race A) From a Dig?
Race B) from a 40 roll?
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10-29-2008, 08:14 AM
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I don't think it would be so much of who would win because of peak hp or peak tq. It would be more of who has the better usable power band in each scenario.
10-29-2008, 08:20 AM
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Car B spools a bit and has a half ass tune so tq curve is fluxuating
bit of info added to post 1
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10-29-2008, 08:20 AM
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Depends on how fast you're going up to. In the top end he will win.
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OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
10-29-2008, 08:22 AM
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OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
10-29-2008, 08:28 AM
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OzzyRuleZ, true, but I think he's looking for the simple answer. Not boring technicalities.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
Car A would win from a dig due to more torque, but because of car B's HP, car B may be able to real him in by the 1/4.
Based on my answer to a race from a dig, my answer for a 40 role is that Car A would hang for a little with good get-up-and-go torque. But car B would over power him eventually.
thats what i think and from the roll i think the tq in car a from a 40 would be able to get a good enough jump on car B so that car B wont catch up till its to late.
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10-29-2008, 08:32 AM
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From a dig, I still think the SC'ed car would lose, simply because the SC car is putting down its torque too fast and spinning the tires, making the driver have to let off to stop A) the clutch from slipping or B) from getting too much wheel hop (or C, both), The TC'ed car wouldn't have to let off as hard as the other car and would be spooling that turbo pretty quickly, due tot he shortness of most 1st gears.
Yeah this is a definitely possibility. Like I said, depends on how fast its planned on going. The longer the race, the less of a chance the SC car would have of winning.
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10-29-2008, 08:34 AM
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From a lower roll the sc'ed car would do well due to the instant boost and 25 more ft lbs of torque, but the turbo car, which is meant to gain breath up top, would definitely start pulling pretty quickly, if not immediately.
From a dig, I still think the SC'ed car would lose, simply because the SC car is putting down its torque too fast and spinning the tires, making the driver have to let off to stop A) the clutch from slipping or B) from getting too much wheel hop (or C, both), The TC'ed car wouldn't have to let off as hard as the other car and would be spooling that turbo pretty quickly, due tot he shortness of most 1st gears.
From a dig, I still think the SC'ed car would lose, simply because the SC car is putting down its torque too fast and spinning the tires, making the driver have to let off to stop A) the clutch from slipping or B) from getting too much wheel hop (or C, both), The TC'ed car wouldn't have to let off as hard as the other car and would be spooling that turbo pretty quickly, due tot he shortness of most 1st gears.
and driver mod on my part but or the sake of the arguement i said drivers race BackStoryMe and my buddy from town always always talk back and fourth and this spring we are actually gonna race at the track!!
Me Awesome Tq. and hp curve ya'll know my mods
Him 09 si Greddy Turbo 8psi Full exhaust so it shall be interesting
on the streets never longer than 110 ever. all races will be at track except hte roll
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10-29-2008, 08:36 AM
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interestin. 1) bewst limit in 1st for s/c car and driver mod on my part but or the sake of the arguement i said drivers race BackStory
Me and my buddy from town always always talk back and fourth and this spring we are actually gonna race at the track!!
Me Awesome Tq. and hp curve ya'll know my mods
Him 09 si Greddy Turbo 8psi Full exhaust so it shall be interesting
on the streets never longer than 110 ever. all races will be at track except hte roll
and driver mod on my part but or the sake of the arguement i said drivers race BackStoryMe and my buddy from town always always talk back and fourth and this spring we are actually gonna race at the track!!
Me Awesome Tq. and hp curve ya'll know my mods
Him 09 si Greddy Turbo 8psi Full exhaust so it shall be interesting
on the streets never longer than 110 ever. all races will be at track except hte roll
an FI K20 usually makes over 300whp. Interesting.
110...ehhh...I can see that going either way actually. It will be close.
10-29-2008, 08:50 AM
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Ah I see. Boost limit in 1st gear would definitely help things. It won't be too far off, but if your buddy gets a good launch, I'd have to put my money on him.
an FI K20 usually makes over 300whp. Interesting.
110...ehhh...I can see that going either way actually. It will be close.
an FI K20 usually makes over 300whp. Interesting.
110...ehhh...I can see that going either way actually. It will be close.
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10-29-2008, 11:02 AM
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Hmm it could be interesting. If his power band isn't screwed up to bad the high revs the honda is capable of might just give him an edge up top. I think he might mph you up top, I think you're going to have to rely on a good 60' time honestly.
11-05-2008, 04:42 PM
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you really cant be 100% sure...it depends on wieght, gear ratios, whether the guy with the turbo was power shifting, or letting it loose boost, whether either of you could drive...
but given optimal senarios and if both cars weighed the same and both were driven by someone that knew how to drive....then the t/c would win
but given optimal senarios and if both cars weighed the same and both were driven by someone that knew how to drive....then the t/c would win
11-05-2008, 08:16 PM
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11-11-2008, 11:50 PM
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okay chris..... just stop bitching..... take out your spare tire.... install a bottle... and spray the **** out of your car and he will be wondering why his VtECHh is failing...or dont spray, and if he pulls ahead- just give tell him your clutch slipped (noone likes to lose to a honda)
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Thanks for sticking up for SS/TC's. We *heart* you.
11-12-2008, 02:19 AM
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to the OP, i honestly couldn't tell ya. cause i'm stock and just beat a '95 LT1 Z28 with headers, full exhaust no cats, intake, and valvesprings... i beat him from a dig AND a 40 roll. so i really don't know