so is there a performance trans for the 2.2 cobalt since i killed mine with only 18000 miles on it or will the 2.0 ss bolt up to the 2.2 and or any info would be nice about this subject please i need some info on this subject and any way tro build up my stock trans to make it stronger. mine is un-rebuildable - please , i need info on this (*and lots of it) as well as innerchangable trans that would be stronger. thanx

 

I would NOT use the 2.0 tranny. First off, I thought I read somewhere that the 2.2 tranny had a higher tq threshold than the 2.0 tranny. Secondly the gear ratios on the FGP (2.0) tranny would be absolutely unlivable in the 2.2. The 1-2 shift bogs so bad for us, I couldn't even imagine how bad it'd be on a non-boosted, less powerful car.

If I were you, since you've got a Getrag tranny is look for another Getrag tranny if you really want to go the swap route. You have a much much much better chance of finding one that's a bolt-up tranny plus a MUCH wider selection to choose from than with FGP, and could probably find one with more suitable gearing.

 

Can we get the story on how you accomplished an unrebuildable tranny?

 

ok you need to look up problems and service and under tansmission probs to get the story

but my trans is un-rebuildable acording to gm service i havent torn down the trans and looked for my self yet becouse im still trying to get gm to pay for it

ps. i need a stong trans for my supercharger im puting on the car.

 

I still say research the Getrags. You really don't want the FGP tranny, get something with better gearing, particularly in first gear.

 

First, there really is no performance auto transmission available for you to directly swap. Converting to a manual is probably the biggest headache you'll ever experience (even for an experienced mechanic). There are a ton of parts you'll need, it's not just a transmission and bolt it up.

Your best bet is to honestly get a NEW automatic transmission (4T45E). You also have to weigh the pros and cons of spending thousands of dollars on parts and paying someone to switch it over for you versus the gains from it. A automatic can handle just as much power as an manual, the only real downfall (in stock form) is heat and drivetrain loss (from being more complicated than the manual). There are ways to fix the heat issue like with purchasing an transmission cooler. As far as drivetrain loss, you'd have to open up the transmission.

As far as parts for inside the transmission, you'd have to basically get everything custom made and by a specialist. Halfcent did this and it's very pricey but it's a good investment if you're aiming for ALOT of power and reliability. If you're just trying to push a mediocre amount of power, it's not worth doing (in my opinion).

Read this thread if you seriously want to look into having upgrades done to the automatic transmission: http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1281 (Thread Name: Companies that cater to our automatics)

As far as putting the supercharger on your vehicle, you should be alright when there is a tuning device available for your computer. HP Tuners is supposed to have something available in 07.

If you have anymore questions, you can reach me privately or on that other forum.

 

Not to sound ignorant or anything................but he's been talking about a manual tranny all along, not an auto.

 

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Why did I think he was talking about an auto?

 

LOL cause 95% of the time when someone on here is looking to swap a tranny it's because they want to make their auto a manual? You just expect it after a while...

 

i just found out today that the getreg transmission has been around for a long time. and that GM is not the only company to use it. Chrysler also has used it in the neons. Just a lil tid bit that id add

 

I think you're actually right.

My apologies.

 

Getrag is one of the premier manual transmission producers. It's also used in the Mini Cooper and almost all other BMW models. The F23 used in the Cobalt is GM-only, as are a couple others. Other applications includ Jaguar S-type, Toyota Supra TT, Dodge trucks, PT Cruiser, Ford Focus, Porsche 911T, GT3, Carrerra, boxster, and Cayman, and the Audi A4, S4, and A6...it's not an off-the-wall brand, it's one of the best-known names in transmissions.

 

ok so if its well known then is it a piece of **** or is it just mine. i just wanted to say all i did is launch it and shift it at the performance lite on my car witch is about 5500 rpms. and when i was running someone down the road moving at 60-65 mph i would shift in 3rd and floor it then hit 4th and then top speed limiter would be right there and the car i was running behind me

ow ya a teck told me that the gears on the FGP trans were the same except for 1st-2nd-3rd and that i could use the stronger trans witch is the FGP and use the 1st-2nd gears out of my getreg for better gearing and launching so what do yal thing about this idea. good-bad hit me back on this

 

Getrags are known to be rock-solid trannies, very few problems with them at all. Yours was either just a mechanical failure (even the best stuff will have a problem once in a while) or wear and tear. One thing about the Getrag trannies is they perform well, BUT, you can't "slam" gears (which, no matter what gearbox it is, you shouldn't be doing anyhow) like in, say a Honda tranny.

 

yal dident answer about the gear swaping for better ratios

and as far as gear slaming yea i know but it never grinded once.

 

Incorrect.

The Neons use the New Venture Gear NV-T350, the same as the Eclipse.

SRTs have the slightly beefier NV-T850

Source: http://faq.neons.org/faq/FAQ_ET.html#MTX

but to quote a bit from that site.
The keyword here would be common.

 

Well that explains why its un-rebuildable. This kids is why we dont abuse a new car, you F*** yourself out of a lot of money.

 

its ok becouse i have it like that and you dont!!! so dont be mad.

and do ya think you can answer the dam question about gearing and ratios

 

I REALLY doubt you'd be able to swap gears from one type of tranny to another. I find that HIGHLY doubtful. VERY highly doubtful and I just wouldn't even try it.

 

Be mad? umm...ok

Anyways swapping gears... it wont work. And to make it work would cause you and your wallet a LOT of headaches.

 

Both you guys need to take it down a notch...it's not that serious.

yellowshowbalt, no one has to answer your question if they don't want to nor does everyone have all the answers you're looking for, so requesting people answers in a demanding way on a public forum is not cool and you need to understand that people like myself and alleycat are here to help by will and not by force. Respect that.

Rallyyellow06, you need to take it down a notch. What he said is not an uncommon thing and assuming someone is a specific way cause of one post isn't fair to him. If you truely have nothing nice to say, honestly, don't say it at all cause you making negative statements isn't helping yourself or him...it's making you look like a jackass, making him frustrated and making this forum look even worse to people who are lurking around. This is a community (or atleast supposed to be one), you give respect and you get respect. Negativity on a forum doesn't do anyone any good.

I'm not trying to get on you but just give you some advice and some insight. You can take it or leave it. Peace.

 

u know i wasent trying to be demanding on my question but im sorry for sounding like a ass that wasent my intension. so im apologizing to the community 4 being childish.

so its not a good idea huh. ok so if i s/c my 2.2 would i want the FGP trans yes-no?

and i know i killed my trans but is it normally strong or weak? well i have anouther trans for my 2.2 but if im going to kill it like my other. I dont know that i want to put it in there.

see my trans was fine in till a lady pulled out in front of me i slamed the brakes yanked left and was sideways about 50-65 yds then i turned the wheels to the right all the way and floored it in 2nd to keep from hitting someone head on the next day it started making noise when i de-accelerated and when im sitting still in neutral clutch out running. all becouse she was running up my lane the wrong way trying to get in the gas station.

 

I wasn't fighting adam,calm down.

Your trans is strong, but even if you S/c your 2.2 you might want to keep your trans you have. Just a thought.

 

I'm absolutely calm, thanks.

But I wasn't saying you were arguing, just saying that your comments were rude and unnecessary.

That's not necessary...

 

It's alright.