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Old 08-30-2008, 05:51 PM
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axle is done, need advice

I snapped my driverside axle at the track today. Wheel hop wasn't too bad. I have front and rear tranny bushings and traction bars. What else is their for wheel hop eliminators?

I was just wondering where you guys are getting your replacement axles. I search around but I can only come up with the 800$ stage 2 ones which I don't want.
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stg 2 axles are ur best bet...running mounts and traction bars puts more of a strain on the axles to spin...
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I don't want the stage 2 ones because then my tranny becomes the week link. I'm having trouble finding stock replacement though.
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launch different? ive yet to see someone putting down enough power to break the tranny
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
I snapped my driverside axle at the track today. Wheel hop wasn't too bad. I have front and rear tranny bushings and traction bars. What else is their for wheel hop eliminators?

I was just wondering where you guys are getting your replacement axles. I search around but I can only come up with the 800$ stage 2 ones which I don't want.
1. replace 1 axle only the broken one, with a stage 2 stiffer. Assymetrically stiffer shafts help.
2. rotate the motor . I have a mount solution which doesnt vibrate that fixes hop but at the moment am not actively selling it. That means i dont care if I do or dont sell it, but it does fix hop by aligning the axle shafts output to input.
3. Check your flca mounts. The ride bushing ( the rearmost one on the front lower control arm) tends to yeild and break up internally
4. wheel hop snaps axles
5. do you have 300+ whp?

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That sucks man...... I said "awwww ****" when I saw the guy towing you to the parking lot. Did you have it towed to freds shop?
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1: I was only planning on replacing the broken 1 but I didn't think about doing ti with a stage 2

2: do you tip it forward like in the build book?

3: I'll check all the bushings

4: Yes but this was very mild compared with some of the wheel hop i've had in the past, so it was strange to me that it broke.

5: yes

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That sucks man...... I said "awwww ****" when I saw the guy towing you to the parking lot. Did you have it towed to freds shop?
No, I should be able to do it alone with the rest of the teardown this month.

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Expensive tow? Man you and fred fucked your **** up today.....
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Fred's car was actually just a loose flexplate bolt.

The tow was 40 I gave the guy and extra 10 for lunch.
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S2 axles recently dropped a bit in price.
well worth the upgrade. some of our wheelhop issues are supposedly caused by distortion in the axle.
plus, you can then run slicks and drop 3-5 tenths off your time

http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/...=LSJ_Transaxle
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Yes that's a much better price than I saw before. thankyou.
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I might order a spare set this week damn.
I have the original ones (yes the first pair) that were originally on rob's (fast06ss for the veterans) and they are still holding up rather well with at least 60 passes on them so far from me and countless other runs from him.
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is there a stage 2 axel for the L61?
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Originally Posted by ilovecars
is there a stage 2 axel for the L61?
you don't need stage 2 axles for the l61. your axles should be fine for at least double the stock power.
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so like 300??
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Sorry to hyjack the thread, but i looked at the axles and thats a good price, but i also seen their control arm bushings for 79.99 for the pair. Whats everyones opinion on those. Might order a set of the axles as well for that price.
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CAB are a waste of money IMO because they only last a few months.....
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tis true, they do seem to disisntergrate after a few thousand miles
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Originally Posted by DoMiStIc_RuSh_06
Sorry to hyjack the thread, but i looked at the axles and thats a good price, but i also seen their control arm bushings for 79.99 for the pair. Whats everyones opinion on those. Might order a set of the axles as well for that price.
already said above. but most people find that they crack and fall apart, making them worse than stock after a while.
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sucks JC, hope you get it fixed and running soon. I was surpriesed i pulled a 14.4 @ 98 with a 2.3 60' with full audio equiment in the trunk haha. We got a vid of me racing dana, destroyed him off the line...1-2 cars but he reeled me in and beat me 14.4 to my 14.5 not bad for a 2.2L vs a 2.7 meth injected 2.0
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damn man. That blows. which side axle do you need? Its not like i can drive my car anymore
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
1: I was only planning on replacing the broken 1 but I didn't think about doing ti with a stage 2 : so do it lol
2: do you tip it forward like in the build book? sure i did thats where it all began3: I'll check all the bushings good plan
4: Yes but this was very mild compared with some of the wheel hop i've had in the past, so it was strange to me that it broke. thats because it was previously hurt you didnt know it and it gave up.
5: yes:So best solution, pony up the bucks and fit LNF axles and hubs. They are way stronger;the tooth count for the wheel bearing may not be the same as your car so that would screw that up with no easy fix. Other than no abs.
So back to square 1. Replace one axle the broken one with a stage 2 if its stiffer that will be better for you. You still gotta rotate the motor no matter what. My latest solution I sent to Shabodah to try he has it installed and i am waiting to hear what he found. its cheap, its easy and changes just one mount

No, I should be able to do it alone with the rest of the teardown this month.
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tis true, they do seem to disisntergrate after a few thousand miles
thats because the joint has to articulate in and out as it goes up and down. Poly cant work. Junk. Needs a spherical joint or replace the Fe5 part (the whole arm) periodically. My solution is expensive and lasts for ever if maintain them and you dont drive in salt and rain....

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yeah I'm going to get mine machines and get spherical bushings installed, just no damn time lately
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
I might order a spare set this week damn.
I have the original ones (yes the first pair) that were originally on rob's (fast06ss for the veterans) and they are still holding up rather well with at least 60 passes on them so far from me and countless other runs from him.
The 800hp ones with hubs are out, those might be a little more suitable.
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yeah I emailed them about those and never got a response, what do those run?


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