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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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The SS/SC runs the F35. it has a final of 4.05 you can swap in a 4.45 final drive.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Alanoo, you still want numbers for the 4.41 final drive parts? PM me to remind me on Monday
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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if someone was to do this, how would we recalabrate our speed-o?
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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if someone was to do this, how would we recalabrate our speed-o?
Youd have to get tuned if possible for your vehicle, or run different sized tires.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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so its not like i hear about integras, they just change the pickup sensor.....
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Nope.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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f23 needs to use f35 final drive (if motor has power)
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Alanoo, you still want numbers for the 4.41 final drive parts? PM me to remind me on Monday
Anyone ever come up with the part number??? I'm considering a trans build up this winter. Very interested in Vue gears...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Anyone ever come up with the part number??? I'm considering a trans build up this winter. Very interested in Vue gears...
yup, it just wasnt posted in public.

These are the ring gear and shaft, list prices are over $500 for the pair.
12571819
12571821

Theres a seal and a lube guide youll need. maybe $30

You may also need the differential itself about $225 list
12571822

If you need the diff itself youll also need new bearings to the tune of $247 list
93334162(x 2)

And of course theres labor......with the trans out of car, Id say anything under $400 labor would be an absolute STEAL of a price.(expect to see figures hover near $600us at most shops)

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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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haha, so I guess I should just keep an eye out for a salvage trans.... But thanks for the info anyway.

If I found a complete trans, would I be able to just swap the diffs? I'm wondering about the axles...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilMonkey
haha, so I guess I should just keep an eye out for a salvage trans.... But thanks for the info anyway.

If I found a complete trans, would I be able to just swap the diffs? I'm wondering about the axles...
No you need the diff and the output shaft.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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does the out put shaft come with the gears on it or do they have to be pressed on?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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no, its just a shaft, youll need to disassemble yours and install your Reverse Gear , 5th/Reverse Synchronizer Assembly ,Bearings, 3rd Driven Gear, 4th Driven Gear, and 5th Driven Gear to the new Output Shaft
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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ok, thanks. i still need to get the books for my car. then i can look and see how do-able/ cost effective it will be. its starting to sound like more of a pain in the ass then its worth. will i need a hot plate for the gears or can i get them on without one?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKLS
ok, thanks. i still need to get the books for my car. then i can look and see how do-able/ cost effective it will be. its starting to sound like more of a pain in the ass then its worth. will i need a hot plate for the gears or can i get them on without one?
A hot plate and a freezer make assembling the shaft easier, but you still need a press, and you MUST have a press to disassemble it, 3rd and 4th gear are TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT press fits.

Ill look tomorrow and see if they are selling assembled output kits.....there was a time when they were.....not sure anymore.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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i have a press at work its just a matter of if i have something that will press and hold...
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKLS
i have a press at work its just a matter of if i have something that will press and hold...
Press and hold?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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press off the gears while holding the shaft. my head works strangly sorry.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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You need a bearing splitter plate. Its a two piece job that you boltaround the shaft so that its edge is under the gear you wanna get off, then you support that on the press and force out the shaft.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
A hot plate and a freezer make assembling the shaft easier, but you still need a press, and you MUST have a press to disassemble it, 3rd and 4th gear are TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT press fits.

Ill look tomorrow and see if they are selling assembled output kits.....there was a time when they were.....not sure anymore.
Is there assembled output shaft kits? Also is the differential different or just the ring gears?
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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the diff are the same, its the output shaft, ring gear and the reluctor ring location for the vss pickup and the case halves are different
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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wait wait wait, both the vue and cobalt have the l61 engine. how is the vue transmission not just a direct swap for the cobalt?
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:11 PM
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Anyone?
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Different platforms, different subframes, different mounting points.
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Old Feb 25, 2014 | 05:29 PM
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custom brackets?
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