Hard shifting into gear
Hard shifting into gear
It has, over the past couple of days, been very hard to get the shifter into any gear. Almost like I'm about to grind a gear, I can start to move the shifter into whatever gear then I really have to muscle it in.
It seems like after the car warms up it's easier to switch gears at lower rpm, but the problem is terrible after running up into high rpm. All I can do is leave it in neutral until the revs drop, then push it into gear.
I recently got a new clutch (near the end of the break in period), and I'm not sure how correlated this could be. YES I am compensating for the lower pedal and pushing it all the way to the floor.
I really don't know much about transmissions, and my car is at 60k. Is a transmission oil change in my near future? Is my clutch messing something up? Something else?
On a side note no odd sound is being made and it has been much colder over the last month (down in the teens) than my car has ever seen before.
It seems like after the car warms up it's easier to switch gears at lower rpm, but the problem is terrible after running up into high rpm. All I can do is leave it in neutral until the revs drop, then push it into gear.
I recently got a new clutch (near the end of the break in period), and I'm not sure how correlated this could be. YES I am compensating for the lower pedal and pushing it all the way to the floor.
I really don't know much about transmissions, and my car is at 60k. Is a transmission oil change in my near future? Is my clutch messing something up? Something else?
On a side note no odd sound is being made and it has been much colder over the last month (down in the teens) than my car has ever seen before.
Its most likely the cold. I would get a fluid change ASAP though, Try and get the 08-10 fluid that the LNF cars use, if you cant get any just use fresh stock stuff (21018899)
synchros have a lot of work to do under those conditions. especially from first startup. Shifting into another gear first briefly usually get things going easily.
Sounds like you have either a clutch engagement problem or a transmission issue.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Sounds like you have either a clutch engagement problem or a transmission issue.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Sounds like you have either a clutch engagement problem or a transmission issue.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Diagnose it by this:
1. With the car cold and the engine shut off, push in the clutch and shift through the gears.
Does it shift easily?
If yes, go to the next question.
If no, then you may have a linkage adjustment issue or the fluid may need to be changed
2. With the clutch still held down and the car in neutral, start the engine. Keep the clutch held down and shift through the gears again.
Is it harder to shift??
If yes, then you have a clutch engagement/drag issue. Could be air in the hydraulic line, a defective master or slave cylinder, or the improper clutch/flywheel for the car.
If no, then the problem is not likely a dragging clutch.
Your second test does indeed aid in diagnosing clutch drag(regardless of cause) but it should be pointed out that noticeably different levels of shift effort from one gear compaer to another is rarely a clutch system concern. That and its incredibly unliley that the cause is that after 60k miles the car has the wrong clutch/flywheel.

That and the OP already posted that its weather dependant, so fluid is th likely cause.
Your second test does indeed aid in diagnosing clutch drag(regardless of cause) but it should be pointed out that noticeably different levels of shift effort from one gear compaer to another is rarely a clutch system concern. That and its incredibly unliley that the cause is that after 60k miles the car has the wrong clutch/flywheel. 
That and the OP already posted that its weather dependant, so fluid is the likely cause.

That and the OP already posted that its weather dependant, so fluid is the likely cause.
In the second test, the effort between engine off and engine on should be identical, because the input shaft is not turning following that procedure. So any noticeable difference in shift effort indicates the clutch is dragging.
I agree that the fluid is likey the cause, but doing that test will at least rule out the clutch as a concern.
gmpp clutch installed by a local mechanic.
I tried the two tests, with no trouble shifting.
Like I said, it's warmer today and it seems a lot better. It could have also been that the clutch bled itself a little bit (iirc qwikredline said it was self bleeding to an extent).
Either way I haven't been able to wring out the rpms because of rain today, so I will try some quick high rpm shifting when I can and the weather is supposed to get colder later in the week. I'll be better able to correlate any problem with the possible cause better in the next couple of days.
Thanks for the help guys, if it comes back my first step is changing the transmission oil.
I tried the two tests, with no trouble shifting.
Like I said, it's warmer today and it seems a lot better. It could have also been that the clutch bled itself a little bit (iirc qwikredline said it was self bleeding to an extent).
Either way I haven't been able to wring out the rpms because of rain today, so I will try some quick high rpm shifting when I can and the weather is supposed to get colder later in the week. I'll be better able to correlate any problem with the possible cause better in the next couple of days.
Thanks for the help guys, if it comes back my first step is changing the transmission oil.

your first test doesnt test fluid condition, and you dont need to press the clutch. A static shift test is going to help aid in diagnosing a shift assembly, shift rail/fork/synchronizer assembly issue.
Your second test does indeed aid in diagnosing clutch drag(regardless of cause) but it should be pointed out that noticeably different levels of shift effort from one gear compaer to another is rarely a clutch system concern. That and its incredibly unliley that the cause is that after 60k miles the car has the wrong clutch/flywheel.
that and the op already posted that its weather dependant, so fluid is th likely cause.
Your second test does indeed aid in diagnosing clutch drag(regardless of cause) but it should be pointed out that noticeably different levels of shift effort from one gear compaer to another is rarely a clutch system concern. That and its incredibly unliley that the cause is that after 60k miles the car has the wrong clutch/flywheel.

that and the op already posted that its weather dependant, so fluid is th likely cause.


Oh my redline shifts so sweet in this weather - like - 40 or whatever up in the frozen north.
lets see I can send you a piktar...
I tried making a snow house using a loaf pan to make bricks...
I found that my ability to have fun in snow has decreased from 10 hours straight when I was 10 to 30 minutes now that I'm 21
my car in the winter time:
I found that my ability to have fun in snow has decreased from 10 hours straight when I was 10 to 30 minutes now that I'm 21
my car in the winter time:
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