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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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LNF or Turbo 2.4L

with full bolt ons and tune, what would be the fastest? would i have to build the le5 internals or is stock good to handle up to 25 psi? what would take more money to build up, i already have the 2.4l so thats where i would save the money right off the bat, rather than sell it and buy a LNF. this is so i dont go and spend money on exhaust and **** then end up selling it all and losing money
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 05:18 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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I believe you would need pistons to sustain that on an LE5, IDK about the bottom end though. The LNF has the oil squirters on the pistons for the boostage heat and we still cook pistonies at high boost & IAT2's. The bottom end has held 500+ HP ala ZZP.

Edit... An LNF swap would be a nightmare with the different ECM/BCM combo than you have. Build up yours even if it can't get to 25 psi.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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i wouldnt lnf swap, just buy the car............ bumpage
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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buy an lnf...... to substain boost levels like that in the 2.4 you need internals, intake manifold, probablly some head work, good tune, and all the extras....
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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i should say if its going to cost an extra grand to beef up the internals on the 2.4L and in the end it will be faster, i will do that. only if its going to be like 2-4k more then i will just buy an lnf
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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id say do the 2.4..my 2.2 would whoop on 95% of the lnfs and i have like 12k into my car including the car and ALL mods
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Honestly, it's a judgement call. You do get some upgrades going with the LNF, but you're going to take a pounding on resale value on your car. I'd say work with what you have if you're happy with the car.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:57 AM
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i could just drive the car until it dies
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 04:11 AM
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If you have the ability to turbo a car, do it? What reason would you not?

Like people said, work with what you have and end up with a unique ride.


myself, even though I have a garage and tools... couldnt deal with turboing a non turbo car.

This is why I sold my 2004 Civic SI and got an LNF.

Boosting a car not designed for boost takes a decent bit of time and effort. In my case I cant even afford to be without a vehicle for more than a day.

Your call though, I like boosted 2.4's.. remind me of a SRT-4 XD
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 04:24 AM
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thanks for all the input guys, but no one has told me what is faster in the end
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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because it all depends on how deep your pockets are and if you on the k04 or big turbo at 25psi. the lnf will have stupid fast spool and is a better all around car. it has better trans, suspension, engine and will hold its own unless you drive like ****
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Keep us updated on what u do, I plan on turboing my 2.4 one of these days, thought about the lnf but the 2.4 would be original
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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wait why do you want to have 25 psi on a 2.4? i can tell you off the bat a 25 psi 2.4 will be faster then a stock turboed lnf assuming you pick a smart turbo..

**** to reach stock turboed/ bolt on / tune numbers for a 2.4 youd probably only need a proper sized turbo and 15 psi and if you have a 06-07 then you'd be fine on stock long as you have a good tune

personally i'd rather bigger displacement, standard port injection and vvt instead of DI smaller displacement and vvt lol

might you have to build the engine.. if you're looking for over 400 whp on a 06-07 2.4 yea. but **** i'd probably still build an lnf if i was looking for those numbers just to be safe
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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A local member has a turbo 2.4 with the zzp kit and air to water cooler setup. It is stock besides the turbo and clutch. I think he is on 11-12psi. He is running the stock catback and the turbo is recirculated so you cant hear it. I was say it is as quiet as a Prius. We raced last week and he was 1-2 cars behind me. I think I pulled on him as the start and he held it there. He also didnt brake boost.

He could be faster if he ditched the stock carback and got an air to air fmic.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
because it all depends on how deep your pockets are and if you on the k04 or big turbo at 25psi. the lnf will have stupid fast spool and is a better all around car. it has better trans, suspension, engine and will hold its own unless you drive like ****
better trans it's hit or miss .. F23s have been pushed up to 500 hp.. suspension ok and the engine for a 06-07 2.4 can be pushed hard as well
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stonny9
A local member has a turbo 2.4 with the zzp kit and air to water cooler setup. It is stock besides the turbo and clutch. I think he is on 11-12psi. He is running the stock catback and the turbo is recirculated so you cant hear it. I was say it is as quiet as a Prius. We raced last week and he was 1-2 cars behind me. I think I pulled on him as the start and he held it there. He also didnt brake boost.

He could be faster if he ditched the stock carback and got an air to air fmic.
lol he needs to get that **** looked at .. at 11-12 psi you should be far behind him man.. **** at 8 psi he should probably be staying with you

11-12 psi on that setup should net close to 300 whp maybe more

unless you have nitrous or something lol
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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my power goals are right under where ill have to build the engine or tranny, so if its at 400, then 350 is my goal. run whatever i can to get that number
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Your dumb if you think it would only take a grand to build your internals. And an lnf on a good byt tune and e-85 would still probably smoke you, with you on 25 psi if you built your motor. Do some more research imo
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Your dumb if you think it would only take a grand to build your internals. And an lnf on a good byt tune and e-85 would still probably smoke you, with you on 25 psi if you built your motor. Do some more research imo
you are smoking something good if you think a tc on a stock turbo can beat a turboed le5 on 25 psi ( pending what turbo it is of course)
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by stonny9
A local member has a turbo 2.4 with the zzp kit and air to water cooler setup. It is stock besides the turbo and clutch. I think he is on 11-12psi. He is running the stock catback and the turbo is recirculated so you cant hear it. I was say it is as quiet as a Prius. We raced last week and he was 1-2 cars behind me. I think I pulled on him as the start and he held it there. He also didnt brake boost.

He could be faster if he ditched the stock carback and got an air to air fmic.
Sounds like his tune needs to be dialed in. A turbo 2.4 losing to a stage 2 SS/SC should not happen

if you can afford a SS/TC I don't see why you wouldn't do it but thats a hell of alot more investment than a turbo build on your current car.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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turbo the 2.4... i had one and i loved it
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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stick with your current car based on your background story. Start with a small turbo build and see how that feels. I can tell you your gonna spend alot of money to get 25psi on that 2.4L... And it sounds like you can afford to not have your car for a day so when **** hits the fan when you try the 25psi thing.... thats not gonna be good.
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