Drivetrain Transmission, LSD, Clutch, Driveline, Axles...

Time to upgrade to bigger axels. Broke on stock tires 1.9 60fts

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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Which clutch do you have Pat?

Ya, right now you have some drivetrain loss....clutch is slipping a little, tires aren't gripping fully....., but once you start putting the power to the ground and remove those variables... **** breaks....

pshhhhhh!

you wanna talk drivetrain loss....then lets talk!!!

also ROB a group buy on them axels sounds good if we can do somethin like that.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
Sorry to hear about your break. Sounds like we need to organize a group purchase on upgraded axles!
Thanks... I knew it was going to happen sooner or later... A group buy sounds good, but I think I might need them ASAP to drive the car.

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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ya pat my car pulled much harder once i got the new clutch in

group buy..im in...that prob nex to go on my car

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Same friggin thing happened to me, i feel for you. Luckily, it sounds like you have the $$ to upgrade to aftermarket. I will probably do that once my warranty expires. Untill then, i am going to baby my car.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Did the same here the first run on the first trip to the track! I think I'll be upgrading the axles here soon as well.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Did the same here the first run on the first trip to the track! I think I'll be upgrading the axles here soon as well.
Damn..... our cobalts got screwed... The 04 ions seem to have a beefier axel then our cars. I'll post some pictures of the new axels when they arrive tommarow or wed.

Thanks Todd and Scott at Intense....
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhed
Luckily, it sounds like you have the $$ to upgrade to aftermarket.
Ya, right... the wife is already on my case for spending money on this car. I'd rather spend that $800 on a vacation or pay off bills.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by max_boost
The CV joint was fine, it was actually the metal shaft that broke. The axle tapers down near the cv joint and that's right where it snaped.
LOL it's called "mechanical" torque managment. Ever hear of a "shear pin"??
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
Give it time.... your almost there.... you should be making the power to twist them. Knock on wood it lasts for a few, then your **** out of luck. When you hit the power level and hook hard...something has to give.
Spec 3+ held up great..... axels... hummmm what's next?
Then the TQ limiter heads back in the general direction of the clutch (aftermarket ot otherwise)
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
Then the TQ limiter heads back in the general direction of the clutch (aftermarket ot otherwise)
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Exactly.... looks like it's going to be clutch or trans the next time somethings going to give.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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ouch. sorry to see that happen to you. I guess that adds another thing to my list now. I'd much rather fix something before it breaks
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Thats insane, thats the exact same spot ine broke. "RECCOMEND THE AXLES FROM INTENSE"
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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damn I"m goin to the track friday... keepin fingers crossed
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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EDIT: Here are a few pictures of the upgraded Axels I purchased from INTENSE.... These are the driveshaft shop Stage 2 axels that hold 400hp.




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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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^^^Those look awesome
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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youll have a minor loss in power to the groud tho because the extra power taken to drive the beefier axles right??? would those fit on my car maybe??? im with a few others in fixing things before they break, and id rather have it outta the way now then just buy a turbo(if they ever come out and i have the money for it) and then having to spend even more money to buy new axles cause i broke them. my father in laws looking into getting me a discount on a eibach pro system+ so ill in the very least not have a stock car anymore. then ill do the bottom end, and buy a new clutch and leave it to the side till turbo time.

and nevermind cause i saw the website and ss/sc only. why are they only good for forced induction motors not NA tho??? i dont understand that one.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahless
youll have a minor loss in power to the groud tho because the extra power taken to drive the beefier axles right??? would those fit on my car maybe??? im with a few others in fixing things before they break, and id rather have it outta the way now then just buy a turbo(if they ever come out and i have the money for it) and then having to spend even more money to buy new axles cause i broke them. my father in laws looking into getting me a discount on a eibach pro system+ so ill in the very least not have a stock car anymore. then ill do the bottom end, and buy a new clutch and leave it to the side till turbo time.

and nevermind cause i saw the website and ss/sc only. why are they only good for forced induction motors not NA tho??? i dont understand that one.
The SS/SC's have different transmissions than the NA car.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FAST06SS
The SS/SC's have different transmissions than the NA car.
Yes they do. I looked at my wifes cobalt LS axels and was thinking of swapping those into my car and taking it to the dealer to fix...lol.... found out that they were different that way. Besides, I would have broke another stock axel next time out so these axels are well worth the money.

Thanks for the advise on disconnecting the lower ball joint to get these axels in. Worked like a charm.... axels are in and working


Just working on the heat exhanger lines and I should be up and running soon.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Are you going to Milan next Friday Daren?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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sheesh! how much do those ****'s weigh ??!!??
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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good lord.... those things are beastly.... I can't wait to get my set (hopefully mine hold up til that time)
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by atwilson
sheesh! how much do those ****'s weigh ??!!??
Didn't have a chance to weigh them...but I would estimate

16lbs each axel

Box wgt when shipped was 35lbs then minus the box wgt 3lbs..so I figured 32lbs/2= 16lbs each.

The stock one is 14lbs....

2lbs each side more.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by patathSS
Are you going to Milan next Friday Daren?

No, I have to work. I work 2nd shift during the week so that just leaves weekends for track days. Good luck and hopefully you break into the 12's.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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what kinda of metal are they??? compared to the old ones?? forged or cast? Al, Fe, steel?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahless
what kinda of metal are they??? compared to the old ones?? forged or cast? Al, Fe, steel?

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/item168957.ctlg

This is the new level 2 axles from The Drive shaft shop, over the years Chevy has had a reputation of having very strong drive trains. Unfortunately this car does not follow the same heritage as the early muscle cars of yesteryear (sorry). Let's start by looking at the factory center bar. Unfortunately the engineers seem to have been pushed towards corporate bean counting instead of drive line excellence. This factory bar has a miniscule 23 spline that tapers down at the outer end that makes the center very weak. The outer C.V. is also made from a lower grade material and will just about handle the factory power. Our level 2 axle has a larger 4340 chromoly center bar with a full 32 spline , the outer c.v. is not only made from a stronger material but has a 30% larger cage for even more strength and the ABS sensor is in the hub so no worries there. The inner C.V. has our standard spline plug design with a larger tripod (larger posts and more needles). All in all the axle will handle up to 400WHP and keep your car from the hooks of a tow truck on race day. So if you're ready to go hunting for a race remember with out axles it may be a faster race than you wanted. //////// first run is sold out item may be purchased at http://www.intense-racing.com/
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