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creedin 08-17-2008 09:30 PM

adding a kinetik
 
will just adding a kinetik battery, no upgrade to alternator be fine or will it cause problems

about 2100-2200 watts total for the system with a hc2400

joeworkstoohard 08-17-2008 09:32 PM

it'll be fine. it's just a battery

creedin 08-17-2008 09:57 PM

well ya, but its a heavy duty, will the alternator be able to recharge it?

joeworkstoohard 08-17-2008 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by creedin (Post 2751535)
well ya, but its a heavy duty, will the alternator be able to recharge it?

yes, batteries charge when the system voltage is higher than the battery, and discharge when it's lower. current and amperage come into play when you're talking about the rate of charge.

an alternator is regulated, so you can't over strain it with the battery, but in theory, if you were charging an almost dead battery <11v it would take longer for the alternator to do it.

creedin 08-17-2008 10:08 PM

ah okay, so basically the kinetik will be discharging until the system is higher ?

joeworkstoohard 08-17-2008 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by creedin (Post 2751589)
ah okay, so basically the kinetik will be discharging until the system is higher ?

right, but that's really only an issue when the car is off, or if the draw is greater than the alternator can provide.

think of it this way, look at a police car, there are a lot of add on items that draw power, so they have HD batteries to handle that. now, most of them also have HD alts to keep the lights from dimming and all, but the idea is the same.

EmperorJJ1 08-17-2008 11:55 PM

basiclly adding an alt is very helpful but not 100% necessary. So yes you can add a battery to your current setup and it will be fine.

to give you a good idea of an extreme situation. a SPL vehicle we had at the shop was a mazda 6 with a stock 60a alt. Battery wise it had 8 interstate workaholic tractor batteries (about twice as big as the commercial group 31's but i dont know the size off the top of my head). 8k watts of amp power RMS and it was a daily driver. Now that car never got close to 12v even driving but it worked just fine and always started. He had to bring it in to the shop every 2 weeks or so to spend all day on a battery charger because at that point the alt probably didnt even work.

Adding a battery(s) is a strain on the alt but it only makes a difference when the voltage of the car drops to the battery voltage (fully charged should be 12.8 or so) but more/better batteries have a bigger capacity making the voltage drop at that point significantly smaller. Your alt isnt going to fail do to batteries if they are kept charged. If your voltage is always at 10-11v the alt is going to die regardless and adding extra batteries and caps just speeds the process. a alt can easily charge a bank of 20 batteries from 12.5 to full capacity but will have take some time charging a single battery from 10v to 12v.... playing your amp at full tilt at that point is what kills the alt. It cant charge the battery (which its not made to do in the first place) and give your amp 100amps

Just remember an alt is meant to maintain the voltage of your batteries not charge them

joeworkstoohard 08-18-2008 12:37 AM

right, that's why trucks can have several batteries with no issues.

off topic, emperor, did you get my PM?

EmperorJJ1 08-18-2008 12:51 AM

yup did u get mine. sry for the confusion

joeworkstoohard 08-18-2008 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1 (Post 2752259)
yup did u get mine. sry for the confusion

dude, i havn't gotten one from you since the 7th.

my email is joe.mchugh@gmail.com since this PM thing seems to be acting up.

confusion?

/end hijack

creedin 08-18-2008 09:50 PM

where can i find a high power alternator... and it should just be a bolt on right?

EmperorJJ1 08-19-2008 12:05 AM

don't know buddy... reason I went dual alt was one wasn't offered for the balt in 06. two years later they should have them but I don't know.

I'd recommend
ohio generator
you'll notice the ohio gen logo in my rear windows ( i lied non of the pics i have posted show it but its there)
powermaster

theres also
iraggi alternator
excessive amperage
high output alternators
mean green alternators


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