i dont really listen to rap, so i dont need bass, but i will probably install my 10's sometime, but thats for another thread. i just like my music really freaking loud. so i thought maybe i'd add like 2 tweeters.how exactly would i use them with a stock head unit? i dont see the point in changing head units in a brand new car with an already good radio. would i need an amp? i'd probably just buy those 14 dollar wal mart tweeters:P

 

nahhh... go to your local audio shop and tell them exactly what you just typed...

if you came into our shop, id offer you some new 6.5's for the front doors and 6x9's for the rear...

 

agreed tweeters arent usually the best place to start adding to get louder. think of it this way your 6.5 does most of the work so adding more of these is where to start... but sicne you dont have the pioneer i would sugesst starting from scratch bc your going to need an amp for speakers if you want volume

 

oh and you dont need to listen to rap to like bass... luckaly for me im all rf and theres a bass boost knob so i can decide how much bass i want per song... btw i love bass and some of my fav songs with bass are rock

 

You dont need an amp, just replace your front speaks and rears. Total cost is like 200 and you will hear the biggest difference, I just got finished installing my new system, and my god is it amazing, i Love it.

 

yeah def get a nice component set in the fron 6.5 and 6x9 in the back. wud b a hell of a difference.

 

true you dont need an amp but it will sound so much better without one... since you figure the hu is only giveing like 10w rms per speaker

 

buy some 6.5" components for the front and replace the rear 6x9s. i would def. get an amp so that the speakers will be able to play louder.

 

i have 2 amps, but i dont know how to hook them up to the stock speakers. i have a 400w and a 800 i think.

 

i still recommend bringing in your car to have someone that knows how to do it, do it...

but if one'a the amps are a 4channel, mount it on the back of the rear seat, use a amp kit (fuse, rca's, wires) and catch all four speakers behind the deck.

 

Okay It Breaks Down Like This U Want More Sound Change Out U'r Deck Because It Has No Controll Over Your Sound And It Pushes Like10 Watts Rms Get Some Nice Components In The Front Compenents Being A 6.5 Mid Cross Over And A Tweeter Don't Just Get A Tweeter Get Some Good Co Ax 6.9 Get A 4ch Amp Run A Small 300 Rms 2ch Or Mono Amp To A Decent 10 To Get That Punch And Not The Low Bass Of A 12 And There Is Your Rock Sounding Set Up

 

you should use more of these "."

 

And less capitalized letters.........

 

You don't need an amp until you get to subs. I started with speakers and they were great. I got a head unit that has an internal amp that may be too powerful for my speakers so I might upgrade those again (if you want my Rockford Fosgate Power ones with a Best Buy warranty, let me know). Now I'm working on subs. Anyway, I agree with these guys: start by replacing all the stock speakers, then decide whether you want tweeters and subs.

 

of all the speakers in a car, the tweeters are the ones that you least wanna go cheap on... i have two ideas. A get the "sharkfin" speakers from a wrecked car that had the pioneer and use those mounts and a nice componant set, or just get a really clean set of front speakers and try that. i've found that a decent set of speakers with an appropriate inline crossover (aka bassblocker) helps a lot. as far as LOUDNESS... most good speakers are pretty efficent, so they will probably play louder than the stock ones at a given volume level.

an amp? unless you're going to play it VERY loud, it's probably not needed... can't hurt, but it's a lot of money. a cheap amp will sound like crap. trust me.

 

doubtful, just turn down the bass... there arn't too many headunits that will supply too much electricity to cook an aftermarket speaker. if it did, you'd probably have to up the wireing too.

 

ahahhahahahah... the blur that was funny but still thats a damn lie. there arent any head units period to cook a aftermarket speaker(distortion, wrong cross settings and shitty installs dont count)... look at the size of an amp that supplies 50 watt RMS and then look at a din sized unit... thats just assuming the whole thing is the amp you still got to add all them other electronics. the most ive ever seen in a din unit is something like 13w rms... the only way to get more power out of a smaller units is by lowering the ohm level. check out the pioneer amp it wouldnt do so well at 4 ohms but at 2 its effective

 

I didn't say I fried my speakers. Read my post again.

I just drove my car and they work with excessive distortion, which anyone smarter than a brick knows is not how music is supposed to sound.

 

i know what you said... you said "I got a head unit that has an internal amp that may be too powerful for my speakers so I might upgrade" thats impossible because other then a few recent technologies that i know havent been in hu's you need space to make power... check out the size of a 50wX4 amp then check out the size of a din unit with many added features and stuff then an amp. so i know you dont have more then 50w rms and unless you have tiny 4" speakers the average for aftermarket is around 50w. even then a good speaker should be able to take a little bit of power over its rating... so if they work with excessive distortion like you stated then you need an amp.

distortion is the audible version of clipping... clipping is what causes speaker failure not distortion (sounds odd but distortion will be herd everytime there is clipping but there can be distortion witout clipping)

so now we know that lets explain clipping. what you are doing is pushing your internal amp to hard and giving your speakers a square wave signal. like i said an internal hu amp usually has from 8-13w rms X4 so each speaker is severly under powered. WHat this signal does to a speaker is supply more power witout the excursion. excursion cools down the voice coil of a speaker and keeps it running so if it gets clipped signal it heats up tons faster... this is how a voice coil gets burned and the speaker will no longer work. also this is why when a speaker is blown its called fried or burned like you stated.

oh and by the way im trying to help you so anyone thats smarter then a brick would stfu, listen to my advise and thank me for saving you 4 speakers...

btw im not trying to be know it all so dont expect everything i say to be 100% out of a book correct but its alot better then your ******* post

 

Excellent post. It seems that hardly nobody knows what clipping is and why it ruins speakers. Most prefer the "underpowering a speaker will blow it" explanation.

 

thanks... the main reason I did it was to be helpful but also because the under powering a speaker thing is technically incorrect... plus the blur was calling me stupid and not only was i proving im not i was proving them wrong

 

I hear ya. I hate when people say that.

 

If no one seems to know what clipping is, why am I an idiot?

Nevermind—I'm not calling anyone stupid here. I'm here to learn like the rest of you. From what my more car-knowledgable sources are telling me, that is the verdict. I am not a car audio expert.

I appreciate your input, even if it proves me and them wrong.

 

I didn't call you an idiot.

 

lol np im not either but ive spent many hours reading and listening about car audio so id say i got a pretty good hold on it.... also i wasnt sure above if you were calling me stupid or what but usually when i see a post with mine in quotes and the words "smarter then a brick" i tend to