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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Big electronic project..need some input

So without going into much detail, I have a big electrical project in mind with my cobalt. I am going to add a capacitor to the stereo power line. I am also upgrading to at least a 180 amp output alternator (should I run a secondary fused power wire to the battery from the alternator for optimum output??). I am then going to install another optima battery in the trunk and run a battery isolator so that the optima powers some aftermarket accessories such as lights and such. (should I have the amp power wire to the secondary battery too?) I will then have just a normal battery for start up. Can I also have two batteries wired up in parallel for the start up batteries?? As well as a third battery run off an isolator for the accessories? Thanks for the input guys.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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hmmm
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Are you making your own capacitor matrix? You can make your own with higher capacitance at much lower cost that those fancy ones.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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uh not positive what that is so probably not, just looking to beef up the electrical system in my car
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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do you plan on listening to the stereo with the car off? if not id say dump the isolator. if so you can put as many batterys as you want depending on the amperage of the isolator
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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y are you using batts and then adding a cap? your wasting money with the cap just throw more batts and you will be fine.. no need to run an isolator..

if your not pushing 2500 watts.. then just put one batt back there and call it a day
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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You will essentially has a 24v system if you just ADD a battery in parallel. Bad idea.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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^^^ that would be series. parallel makes 2 batteries "act" like one series doubles the voltage
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
You will essentially has a 24v system if you just ADD a battery in parallel. Bad idea.
ummm no

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^^^ that would be series. parallel makes 2 batteries "act" like one series doubles the voltage
there we go
like i said dont waste your money on a cap... and 18v is a very good idea moar power before you upgrade your alt.. do the big 3 upgrade..
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:25 AM
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18v is a bad idea too... good luck finding an amp that will work at 18v
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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18v is a bad idea too... good luck finding an amp that will work at 18v
most amps do lol.. diablo audio technoligies.. rockford sundown stetsom.. most amps do.. join stevemeadedesigns and learn alot.. 18v is what the real pros pump out...
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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I've tried 2 of those 4 and i wouldn't put a DAT amp in my car ever. and i almost bought a stetsom to try it out too. but dont get me wrong i wanted the rep, dealer whatever you want to call him to guarantee me that would work at 18v. he said i cant do that. after spending more then enough money trying to get 16v/18v to work i said **** buying another amp that "might" work. Im not saying i did everything right but if i couldnt get it to work i doubt he can
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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I've tried 2 of those 4 and i wouldn't put a DAT amp in my car ever. and i almost bought a stetsom to try it out too. but dont get me wrong i wanted the rep, dealer whatever you want to call him to guarantee me that would work at 18v. he said i cant do that. after spending more then enough money trying to get 16v/18v to work i said **** buying another amp that "might" work. Im not saying i did everything right but if i couldnt get it to work i doubt he can
why wouldnt u put a dat in your car? there amps are powerhouses and david stands by his products..
any comp amp company will stand by it.. idk who your rep is but they sound like a idiot
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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Sweet jesus, who kind of RMS wattage are you running that you would possibly need an 18 volt system??

As for the original poster, what kind of system are you planning to run before we could really tell you what you need to do.

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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
why wouldnt u put a dat in your car? there amps are powerhouses and david stands by his products..
any comp amp company will stand by it.. idk who your rep is but they sound like a idiot
when i said rep im talking about the head up of the stetsom usa. i'm not sure how it is now but when i was looking at stetsom they had one distributor here in charge of all their usa sales warrantys ect ect for both consumers and shops. i spoke to him directly and said I've had issues with amps that aren't liking the high voltage for daily use. he said he could not guarantee the amp they have thats rated for the higher voltage would work 100% for daily purposes.

I wouldnt put dat in my car because i was very unimpressed by the 8kw that was sent to our shop for repair. the board in general wasn't anything special (not good nor bad) but it had ghetto add on bullshit because the original design was flawed.

do you have 18v in any of your vehicles? how about meade?
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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i had 18v in my mountaineer but that was into a diamond amp.. price has 18v but he turns it down to 16v (dc power alts have a adjustable voltage reg) and meade his car takes waaay to much power to be efficiant at 18v.. the caddy is at 18v

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Sweet jesus, who kind of RMS wattage are you running that you would possibly need an 18 volt system??

As for the original poster, what kind of system are you planning to run before we could really tell you what you need to do.
at 1 time a clean 2000rms with 18v then it was up in the 8k range..

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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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wow cool... what equipment exactly were you using? and was it daily or just competition?

i stopped payign attention to smd hence why i asked about meade but i have a modified team rf T40001bd for 18v. and it worked for 18v for the first oh 5 minutes.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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This is the alternator I want to get. They recommend running another 4 gauge power wire. Then this is a rough sketch of what I am looking at.

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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 02:58 AM
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ugh idk why that picture is so small
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 03:09 AM
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
wow cool... what equipment exactly were you using? and was it daily or just competition?

i stopped payign attention to smd hence why i asked about meade but i have a modified team rf T40001bd for 18v. and it worked for 18v for the first oh 5 minutes.
i had the mla so it was adjustable.. but i was running 2 diamond d6 1200.1's then i ran stetsom 16kbd


as for the alt diagram.. just run the positives back the bats in the back and the batt in the front.. put fuses 18 inches from every terminal. and use 0ga to do the alt wires... the negitives and the posi.. look up the big 3 upgrade
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Back to my original question though, what kind of stereo equipment are you planning to run? Might want to consider that first before you bother upgrading your power system.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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the stereo system is a simple 600 watt system, two 10 inch subs, stock head unit. Would be design work though regardless of the power plans that I have?
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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lol, comon trey! are you bored or something?
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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got a question, subs with that big ass wing on the back... will it rattle?
also where did you guys hook up your LOC? I don't want to take out the stereo.
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