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Old 06-15-2008, 11:56 PM
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Help me choose an amp

Ok right now i have a rockford T30001bd and im looking at possibly "trading" for a sundown saz 3000d but im not sure. ill list pros and cons

T3k Pro
Its a fosgate and i like fosgate
giant heatsink makes thermal impossible
Size looks badass
Overall looks are badass
My boss says its a better amp then the saz
2/0 fits just fine
Fosgate bd tech might give me better sq

T3k Con
Size makes the install difficult
not 16v stable (again my boss says that isn't an issue since he can always mod it)
i half dont want a modded anything

SAZ Pro
.5 ohm 16v stable
Amp is overall overbuilt
looks clean and isn't overly big
I want it
i would probably come out ahead money wise if i did the swap (meaning more updates for the door pods)

SAZ Con
not sure how the terminals will like 2/0
smaller heatsink in "theory" makes thermal easier but thats not much of a con
My boss says although its a nice amp the fosgate is better... in the end it might be a downgrade
everything in my car is currently a brand we carry at the shop. sundown is not

SO what do yall think?
Old 06-16-2008, 12:46 AM
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What subs you running again?
Old 06-16-2008, 12:50 AM
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2 RE XXX 15s 1600rms each
Old 06-16-2008, 01:07 AM
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I say go with the SAZ, heres my reasoning

This was taken from the Sundown Audio section of SSA Forums, in regards to testing done on the 3000d

Measurements:

65.8 volts
49.2 Amps
1.33 ohm calculated rise from 0.6 ohm DCR **
3237 Watts
14.4 volts rest dropping to 10.75 volts
I'll skip some of the rest of the post and show you the next comment made

Am I nuts or are you saying that this thing does 3200 watts at 1.33 ohm (actual) at 10.75 volts?

If I am reading that correctly, JESUS CHRIST. That kinda juice is well worth the price
The answer was yes
You need quite the electrical system to run one of these but with 2 alts and 3 batts. I think you got it covered
Those numbers line up nice with your RE's and the amp is stable to .5 ohm to run them.

I hear what your saying about not wanting to runn a modded amp, if it aint broke don't fix it cuz chances are fixing it is going to break it.
Heres a link to the page where I got the info from, you should read it, its interesting to say the least
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/f...showtopic=9952

Oh yeah and heres the main reason why you should get it
I want it
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http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/f...showtopic=7900

is what started this whole thing
Old 06-16-2008, 02:42 AM
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Thats a killer amp.
I'm sure your getting a deal on it but what does it retail for?
Old 06-16-2008, 02:51 AM
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retail on the sundown is 1500 i believe.
Old 06-16-2008, 03:04 AM
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Thats not to bad
Christ, I remember when a Punch 200 DSM went for almost as much
lol- man now I feel old
Old 06-16-2008, 03:13 AM
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damn really. thats sad because alot of the guys on the fosgate forum get mad when someone posts a clean dsm for 100 bucks
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went with the sundown... price size and the Fosgate cover rattling did it for me

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Thats freaking sweet man, well done!
Old 04-29-2009, 12:07 AM
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time to revisit this, just bought a T30001bd again, whichever is most stable at 18.8v is gonna be the keeper
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lol, does that mean your not having luck with the other?
Old 05-03-2009, 03:55 AM
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sorta yes sorta no. the sundown is a great amp but it doesnt like the high voltage at all. ive been running it on 12v for some time and it works nice but i want that 18v.

plus i got it at a very good price. cheaper then i bought one of my ppi a600 amps
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ah, so whichever lasts longer is the winner, sound like an easy choice. :-)
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What are you going to do with the SAZ?
Old 05-06-2009, 12:39 AM
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whichever one doesn't handle the voltage best will be sold.
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actually in utter and complete nonsense I've decided to sell both amps, found me a T40001bd that's factory modded for 18v. might as well go big or go home

Interested in a saz spun?
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