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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Iz lookin for a system :) help me!!

I don't know much about audio systems for cars, well. don't know much about the good ones.
most of my friends have cheap **** in there rides. bih not me.

i was wondering what you guys think is the best brand. I'm lookin for subs and tweeters and some door speakers to replace the stock ones in the 09 Cobalt SS/TC, and of course an amp.
I really want one to sound amazing and be able to blow the doors off if i want it too

Onna my friends has a stratus r/t, he's got two subs (i think JL) 13''s in his trunk they sound friggin awesome but they make his lights dim when they hit. and he hasn't replaces the stock speakers yet so it sounds kinda shitty as a hole.

I don want my lights to dim haha is wut i'm tryin to say. I'm assuming that i'll need an alt for it but i don't really know. and from what i've read there isn't one for the 09

oh. and they are going to build me custom fitted houses for the subs and tweeters around the sides of the trunk. would it be a good idea to put subs and tweeters in the same housing. or should it be separate? or does it matter? lol.
and i'm not sure on the size of sub i want because i don't want it to take up my hole trunk ya kno.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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For Subs
RE Audio, Digital Designs, Fi, TF-one.
Sub amp
(depends on how much you want to spend)
Audison, Rockford Fosgate, Digital Designs, Sundown Audio,
Front end speakers
Hertz, Focal, Morel, CDT Audio

If there buliding you pods for the front doors, then IMO I would put the tweeters in the pods to keep them as close to the midbass driver as possible. Unless you have a processor that can ajust the timing, if so then you can put them anywhere...well almost anywhere and they will still sound good.
A good battery should help with the light dim. Check out the sticky at the top of the section for the names and prices.
There is one way to get rid of the headlight dim all together, put a HID conversion kit it. They run off a regulated power source so it gets rid of the strobe light effect. Thats only on the headlights though, dash lights are another story
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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That's probably what i'll have done i didn't think about getting pods made for the front. i'll have to look into it. I was worried about the subs disrupting the sound and making it sound all... bumpy ya kno?

thanks.

Dude i am liking RE audio XXX dizzam. do you have any experience with their midbass and tweeter packages? those subs look beast!!!

the thing that worries me with the full range speakers is that at high volume levels they start to sound bad. like wide open and the bass sounds bad and distorts the higher pitches...

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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That's probably what i'll have done i didn't think about getting pods made for the front. i'll have to look into it. I was worried about the subs disrupting the sound and making it sound all... bumpy ya kno?

thanks.

Dude i am liking RE audio XXX dizzam. do you have any experience with their midbass and tweeter packages? those subs look beast!!!

the thing that worries me with the full range speakers is that at high volume levels they start to sound bad. like wide open and the bass sounds bad and distorts the higher pitches...
get a headunit with a good EQ where u can control all that ****
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Yea that's another thing i don't really know about... If I just went a head a did a full XXX system i have no clue what a good headunit would be :> as far as brand. and again i don't really car about price...

I like the thought of a touch screen unit. However I sorta don't want one b/c i don't' want to have to fool with it while driving...

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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well if you dont care about price. Clarion DRZ-9255.

Crossover is more of a concern than time alignment.... assuming you are going to keep the tweeters along the same axis as the midbass driver. The side view mirror sails seemed very optimal to me crossing the tweeters at 1khz, and allowing the mid to cross at 800 hz on a 12db/octave slope.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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wow that's bad ass!!! but. lol i think 1300 is a tad to much well. who knows. NOT ME! lol

as far as price goes. does anyone know how much the RE audio XXX subs are?? I'm lookin at the 12'' and I'm assuming it's 1200 or 1300 bucks. i wonder if i will only need one . :?
if the subs can handle 2000 watts. ridiculous. what size amp would i need. and if I'm gonna get XXX component kits for the doors would i need like a 4 way amp or what?? i'm a newbie

I'm only lookin to spend like 4 grand. maybe 5. and i have no clue how much the XXX component kits are. i'll need at least one for each door (2). then I'm figuring roughly 1000 for a head unit with installation i hope!!. and I still need an amp. and all this junk will be put in by the dealer i buy it from so i guess i'll have to pay for installation. i know they'll prolly do like free installation on something i hope

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well if you dont care about price. Clarion DRZ-9255.

Crossover is more of a concern than time alignment.... assuming you are going to keep the tweeters along the same axis as the midbass driver. The side view mirror sails seemed very optimal to me crossing the tweeters at 1khz, and allowing the mid to cross at 800 hz on a 12db/octave slope.
i don't think the cobalt has side mounted tweeters?? or a spot for them really..

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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I prefer Pioneer for everything. I never had a problem with my pioneer equipment and it sounds great.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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I prefer Pioneer for everything. I never had a problem with my pioneer equipment and it sounds great.
X2 i just got a new P4000 h/U and i love it works amazing

but my friend has alpine type R everything in his balt and it sounds pretty good as well
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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i was actually thinking about a pioneer head unit. i like em
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by platinumrims
i was actually thinking about a pioneer head unit. i like em
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-P4...2497141&sr=8-1

this is the one i got, i got the combo donw the page sum with a remote and ipod hook ups
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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AHH information over flow. i don't know of any one shop that has ppl that know about all this ****....

Pioneer is hot. i didn't think to look at their speakers and subs tho b/c the ppl i know that have their stuff sounds like **** lol... course... i know everyone has upper line products.. blah. i don't really know what to do. i'm so confused. pioneer could sell me a complete system. head unit speakers and all...

that's cool. does the ipod hook up that comes with the car not work if you get a custom headunit???
cuz if it don't that's one less hole that will be in the dash. i'll order the base system thing.

do you know if they have to hook it up to the new unit for it to work?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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i just ordered some kenwood excelon 6x9s... probably gunna get the 6.5s in the near future

ive heard good stuff about the excelon series from kenwood.... heard them in person and they sounded good

... i would recommend kenwood excelon speakers with a good headunit and whatever subs you want... make sure u go with a good company for an amp too... i got the kenwood excelon amp coming
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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wow that's bad ass!!! but. lol i think 1300 is a tad to much well. who knows. NOT ME! lol

as far as price goes. does anyone know how much the RE audio XXX subs are?? I'm lookin at the 12'' and I'm assuming it's 1200 or 1300 bucks. i wonder if i will only need one . :?
if the subs can handle 2000 watts. ridiculous. what size amp would i need. and if I'm gonna get XXX component kits for the doors would i need like a 4 way amp or what?? i'm a newbie

I'm only lookin to spend like 4 grand. maybe 5. and i have no clue how much the XXX component kits are. i'll need at least one for each door (2). then I'm figuring roughly 1000 for a head unit with installation i hope!!. and I still need an amp. and all this junk will be put in by the dealer i buy it from so i guess i'll have to pay for installation. i know they'll prolly do like free installation on something i hope



i don't think the cobalt has side mounted tweeters?? or a spot for them really..
I'm running the DRZ-9255 and the VCZ-625 DVD/CD/MP3 player in my truck. Yeah it's a pretty expensive combo at 2200 retail for the two, thank god for dealer promo's .


The Cobalts with the premium audio had tweeters in the mirror sails I believe. If not I know for sure the redline has the option for them. I opted not to pay the extra 900 for the premium in my redline and put my own tweeters in the sails. I'm using Image Dynamics NX-30 tweeters up front, and 6.5" chameleon midbass drivers all around. I don't know how high end you're looking to go, but I suppose I should say kenwood speakers are decent since I am a kenwood dealer . Having said that, I'm really not a fan of any of their amps.

The XXX subs can take a lot more than the advertised 2000 watts. But the manufacturers you've suggested so far you're going to kill them from distortion before overpowering them. We used to carry RE and I don't remember price on them but I don't think they were that much. A single 10 is more than enough for a guy like me but I have no idea what your tastes are. I'm running a single memphis 10" slim sub in my redline purely for bottom fill, im not a bass junky.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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well i really wanna go with someone that has good ****. i know the SPL or whatever series of subs that pioneer have are bitchen. i want sum big **** lol... idk about their midbass and tweeter set ups tho. pioneer makes everything. i didn't really wanna mix brands :/ but maybe i'll have too.

if i got component speakers (midbass and tweeters) for the door would they need to be hooked to the amp. how much better do you think it sound if they were.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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well i really wanna go with someone that has good ****. i know the SPL or whatever series of subs that pioneer have are bitchen. i want sum big **** lol... idk about their midbass and tweeter set ups tho. pioneer makes everything. i didn't really wanna mix brands :/ but maybe i'll have too.

if i got component speakers (midbass and tweeters) for the door would they need to be hooked to the amp. how much better do you think it sound if they were.
go all kenwood, headunit, component speakers up front, regular 6x9s in back, amp for the 4 speakers

then get another kenwood amp for ur subs

going 2 different brands isnt that bad, especially just for subs
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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i like the KDC X493 head unit. sleek and sexy

kenwood don't put prices on nuthin

I havent seen the upgraded sound system in the cobalt. i haven't ordered mine yet. the only one i've looked at was the base model SS :/
and i figured sense i was gonna put a system in that i would just get the base system and fix it how i want... i want to say the premium sound upgrade is like 300 or sumthin... a hole 300 watts prolly... oh wow. lol

the pioneer equivalent to the XXX is like 1000 bucks... It's not that I'm a bass fan. although i do like the way it feels i just want it to be ridiculous when i cut it up. or when a song hits. i want it to HIT!!! hit so hard it hits the cars next to me. ha ha and makes them rattle.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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If you don't want your lights to dim get a second battery have 2 strong batteries and you should be good
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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so would i need a 4 channel amp for the midbass/tweeters and the 6x9's

and a 2 channel amp for the subs??

1 amp 2-way X1200M, for the two 12'' subs KFC-XW12R

1 amp 4-way (KAC-X40), for two XR-S17P speaker packages, i'm not really sure what size speakers the car can actually hold with out doing modifications. which i'm not going to do in the inside. just in the trunk. i want the inside to look stock. so those speakers might change in size. but as far as the amps go.. is that what i need? lol

??????????

btw if i got kenwood subs that's what they would be. and is the amp right for those too. i want to be able to put max power to them if i want. or close enough to it with out over running the amp.

and this for a head unit KDC-X991???

and is there anyway possible that you can tell me about how much this will be sense ur a dealer???

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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If you don't want your lights to dim get a second battery have 2 strong batteries and you should be good
2 batteries arent going to help much. Our alternators don't produce much current at idle.
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i have 2 twelve inch jbl gto's in the box. brand new subs the box has some chips but you can just put putty on it. if you wanna buy them ill sell you them for $275 plus shipping
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i will sell u two infinity 12's and matching infinity amp......
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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ha ha. i won't be buying subs until i got the midbass and tweeters put in. subs ain't cheap. and i'm getting pods made for them so over all they gonna cost a lil extra . i don't know how many i'll need or anything untill i get everything else done. subs will be the last. i want my system to blow the doors off however i won't get 2 12's if it dont sound balanced. maybe i'll just get one.

and i'm talkin subs as in 2000 watts a piece with a two thousand watt amp hooked to them

and i'm confused on the two channel and 4 channel. wtf are the channels for. i figured that a two channel amp would be fore two speakers. my subs are gonna be on opposite sides of my trunk so i figured i'd need a two channel 2000 watt amp for those so i could hook them both up separately?? that way the amp puts 1000 to each of them right?? would that be to much work on the amp? or would it matter. if it can handle 2000 watts it wouldn't over heat or not work properly if i used all 2000 would it?

and i figured a 4 channel 1000 watt amp for the interior speakers. i could hook them (4 midbass each tied with 1 tweeter) all up separate or would it be better to hook the midbasses up on one channel and the tweeters on another channel... or would it make any difference at all if i just got a one channel amp and tied them all together. i figured having more channels would make it easier to use the EQ on them? HELP!!! AH!

oh i just found where it says the Kenwood super woofers have a peak power input of 300W. does that mean all i could put into them with an amp is 300W? so if i had two i would only need a 1000W amp for them?
systems are confusing

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mtx 9500. they are better than jl w7
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Because i want to keep everything the same brand. i think i'm kinda stuck between pioneer and kenwood.
BTW what yall think of Kenwoods Super Woofers?? i don't know if i can find speakers that are good enough to keep up with the super woofers. especially if i get two 12s the other speakers i found from kenwood have a max output of 300W you think that will be enough? the speakers are XR-S17P... i don't remember how many spots the cobalt has for speakers. i know there are the two in the doors but were their two more i missed? like 6x9's or anything? i don't have the car yet i haven't ordered it so i don't know. and i dont feel like driving 25 minutes to look at it again

so does anyone know if a two channel amp that can give both subs 300W?? i don't think Kenwood has one. i wouldn't run them at the full 300 all the time. prolly like 250ish. but i still wanna have full power?

and i'll need one that can put 300w to 4 speakers... i dont' think kenwood has one that big either. that's like 1200W 4-channel amp.

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2 batteries arent going to help much. Our alternators don't produce much current at idle.
so what will i need if i run all this ****? i don't want no strobing goin on haha...
if two batteries wont cut it? do i need another alt and battery? it'd be funny if my car died everytime the bass hit

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