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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Second skin inside sub box + surprise

So as always i can never be truly finished with anything. I yanked my subs to spray the inside of the box with second skin spectrum. I sorta want to see if it will improve my score but the goal and purpose is to reduce resonance and provide a better seal. I had 4 quarts of this stuff sitting for over a year, i was planning on spraying the underside of my car but without a lift or access to one i cant really do it. The contact i had to use a lift disappeared right after i bought the stuff SO i sprayed the better portion of a gallon of this stuff in the box. Can anyone guess what the green tape is for? I want to see if anyone can guess the surprise in progress










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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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so you can get a mold of that hole?
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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so you can get a mold of that hole?

im gonna go with CF cover? or plexi glass cover? custom box? probably CF to match the door panels, by the way you have a **** load of stuff going on in your car!
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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green tape is to help keep the fiberglass and resin off of the interior while you make a custom front for the box. i win
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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yea im guessing for a custom fiberglass/cf front panel
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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green tape is to help keep the fiberglass and resin off of the interior while you make a custom front for the box. i win
bingo someone remembers all my stupid threads

oh in terms of what the final "covering will be and or look like depends on how crazy this turns out to be. I'd like to do black vinyl for a more stock clean look but we'll see

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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subscrizzled.


i'm watching this one you crazy audio junky.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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im gonna go with CF cover? or plexi glass cover? custom box? probably CF to match the door panels, by the way you have a **** load of stuff going on in your car!
i know and it just keeps getting worse... sadly there's still alot of stuff i need to run back and forth. but so far on the passenger side i have 3 sets of speaker wires and 4 sets of rcas... I'm thinking of running a 5th... drivers side has 2/0 power to the rear, 1/0 power to the rear, 4g power to the rear deck d block, 1/0 and 4g power from dblock to rear, 2 4g grounds from rear deck dblock to the rear, 2 different bass knob lines, 9count speed cable for remote wire, 3 runs of speaker wires, 2 runs of 18g remote wire to dblock for deck ground, deck reverse wire and i think that's it.

I guarantee if anyone had to even think of doing any wiring or troubleshooting other then me they would promptly say **** off... i know i've bitched on **** with a hell of a lot less going on

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subscrizzled.


i'm watching this one you crazy audio junky.
lol thanks

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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you are crazy...I am thinking about doing a fg lip...but we wil lsee...so much work to do
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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while you have that all taped up you should do a custom rear deck... Thats what I am doing once i have free time.. New system time
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
So as always i can never be truly finished with anything. I yanked my subs to spray the inside of the box with second skin spectrum. I sorta want to see if it will improve my score but the goal and purpose is to reduce resonance and provide a better seal. I had 4 quarts of this stuff sitting for over a year, i was planning on spraying the underside of my car but without a lift or access to one i cant really do it. The contact i had to use a lift disappeared right after i bought the stuff SO i sprayed the better portion of a gallon of this stuff in the box. Can anyone guess what the green tape is for? I want to see if anyone can guess the surprise in progress

oh my so dam puzzling lol
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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while you have that all taped up you should do a custom rear deck... Thats what I am doing once i have free time.. New system time
once i get all my amps in thats gonna happen.... i need one more ppi to give me a total of 6 amps. i actually already have a custom fiberglass rear deck... it just doens't actually fit in the car. the vinyl work was pretty shitty too

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you are crazy...I am thinking about doing a fg lip...but we wil lsee...so much work to do
more importatantly is how well its gonna hold up. I dont know about you guys but my car is low and scrapes everywhere. if i had any FG on the body it would be promptly broken

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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your making a custom box out of green tape??????????


awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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may I ask what do you have 6 amps for?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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1 sub amp
1 tweeter amp
1 midrange amp
1 midbass amp
1 rear speaker amp
1 center amp

so far i have everything but the rear speaker amp
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
1 sub amp
1 tweeter amp
1 midrange amp
1 midbass amp
1 rear speaker amp
1 center amp

so far i have everything but the rear speaker amp
isn't that a little overkill bro? could of probably been solved with 2 good 4 channels no?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
bingo someone remembers all my stupid threads

oh in terms of what the final "covering will be and or look like depends on how crazy this turns out to be. I'd like to do black vinyl for a more stock clean look but we'll see
well thats what i meant..seriously..i did
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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isn't that a little overkill bro? could of probably been solved with 2 good 4 channels no?
ya but to get amps as clean as the old school PPIs i have i would need to buy some expensive ass audisons(LRX).

I was actually thinking of getting 2 of the SRX 5 channels for all the highs but ended up going with the ppi's

to give you an idea of how clean these amps are when testing the THD (total harmonic distortion) on the bench the number goes down if you turn off the light on the bench. Yes the amp is so clean the florecent light being on makes the THD go up.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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i have no idea what you said but it sounds nice

did the subs sound any different after second skin?

when i had mine i was thinking about lining the inside of my box with damp pro

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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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??? i havent put them back in the box yet
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:52 AM
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??? i havent put them back in the box yet
why what's the THD rating on them.

i just looked them up and the THD really isn't great at all on the audison's.

now .001% that's a great THD
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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i meant i dont know about the second skin because i haven't put the subs in the box since i sprayed it

thd of the ppi art is less than .02%

something ghetto like boss or something can have like 10% thd
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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Betta its going to look sick.

I just saw a Sansui amp on Ebay.
Now I what your thinking, but for a few years they contracted PPI to build them high end amps.
PPI used the same board and chasis as the art series (it was at the same time the art series was out) but only made limited numbers of them.
The one I saw was a 600.2 .
So thats a class A/B perfect for running a set of rears.
There white but only difference bettween them and the PPI is it says Sansui accross the front instead of the art decal.
I'd sell you mine but its a 600.1 so it wouldn't work for what you need.

Have you ever looked at the old school Phoenix Golds, The M44 M50 ect. Those amps were awsome and look similar to the PPI amps. If cosmetics are a concern.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
i meant i dont know about the second skin because i haven't put the subs in the box since i sprayed it

thd of the ppi art is less than .02%

something ghetto like boss or something can have like 10% thd
yeah no **** lol that's why only dumbasses by that ****. but there are plenty of amps out atm that have .03% thd or less under full power for a great price. im just surprised you want that many amps lol
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Betta its going to look sick.

I just saw a Sansui amp on Ebay.
Now I what your thinking, but for a few years they contracted PPI to build them high end amps.
PPI used the same board and chasis as the art series (it was at the same time the art series was out) but only made limited numbers of them.
The one I saw was a 600.2 .
So thats a class A/B perfect for running a set of rears.
There white but only difference bettween them and the PPI is it says Sansui accross the front instead of the art decal.
I'd sell you mine but its a 600.1 so it wouldn't work for what you need.

Have you ever looked at the old school Phoenix Golds, The M44 M50 ect. Those amps were awsome and look similar to the PPI amps. If cosmetics are a concern.
ya i have seen those. the ones i really like are the black ppi arts. they look damn doog.

lol impulse ya I'm not 100% sure the actual thd rating but the a600s are literally the cleanest amps I've herd personally. a straight swap from a ppi powerclass 650 to 2 a600s made my mids sound just that much cleaner. its hard to describe but there was a difference. same thing when swapping the tweeter amp to a mcintosh

lol gotta find the best amps on the planet to match the best mids too
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