I know a turbo is exhaust driven, Supercharger is belt/pulley driven. what is a PROCHARGER? how dose if produce power/boost?

 

A procharger is a supercharger and is belt driven as well.

A typical super charger is mounted directly to the intake. Prochargers are mounted externally (like an alternator) and the intake is connected via piping to the intake. Prochargers are easy to hook up on NA cars without doing alot of modifications. Typically if you buy a procharger it will come with a bracket for your vehicle and belt, so you just have to put piping to the intake and bolt it in and you are ready to go.

 

procharger is a centrifugal SC like a belt driven turbo is the best way to describe it

it bulds more and more boost all the way to redline.. and is pure sex

 

do they make prochargers for the balts?

 

You woudlnt want one.

 

y? just asking for opinions

 

yes sir.. well it's finishing being developed for the ion then just needz someone to step up for the balt and make sure everything is all set .... piping might be slightly different then my setup .. but the brackets for the balt are made...

and shortstack ... we'll see about that.. while yes i'm not a 2.2 ... my car should be hitting the dyno this weekend to compare

 

Cant wait to see results

 

because he doesnt know better lol.. and thinks turb0s are teh sexcks

there was a 03 or 04 2.2 ion that made 190 whp in denver on an un finished tune (the guy lived in MN so they played it safe being as altitude and things would affect the tune)... another guy made 212 whp on the same setup with a better tune this was on 6 psi in denver ...

 

dont pro-chargers sound loud as hell too. And i dont get how they are connected to the intake. T

Pro-charger in back. belt on the right, intake for procharger on left and running around somewhere. now how does the engine get the air pressure from this. get what im saying? Unless the procharger is connected directly to the throttle body and acts as the intake pressurizing the air, but now I dont see an inlet on the procharger for an intake for the procharger to get air to pressurize. im slowly figuring it out give me a minute

 

the definition of a supercharger is that it is belt driven. prochargers that i have seen are pretty bad ass. guess it just depends on your setup with which way you wanna go.

 

Turbos are better. But... the procharger just isnt the best way to go.

the efficiency of a procharger on a 2 liter just doesnt cut it.

 

works just like a turbo just driven by a belt.. there's turbine blades

 

I think this is a better picture intake for procharger coming out the back, pressurized air going from the left, under a bunch of **** then back to the throttle body.

 

i never said they were the best ... and i was just messing with you

we'll see some people have done great things with centri blowers on 4 cyls

 

id love that **** on my cobalt. Someone should hook up a procharger and twincharge an LNF just for the hell of it. Cant be too hard on an LNF, you already have a bunch of charge air pipes running around, and the TB is on the bottom in the front, just hook up a procharger to the belt, throw a little piping under headlight for cold air, then tap into the cold side charge pipe to deliver the charged air. Would that work or would it kinda backfeed through the intercooler before the turbo spooled up and forced it back the other way. but if it backfeeds through intercooler that air will be cold as **** by the time it hits the TB and im sure youll feel a HP gain

 

honestly i thought about getting a D1sc blower lol and the K04 from the lnf. lol so that way there would be a good down load and a beastly top end

 

Ha i knew ya were dude lol.

 

That would be insane. you should do it and listen to how everyone says "twinchargers are SLOW" as you bust a nut in their face at the track

 

twin BOV's lol

honestly i have absolutely no idea how you'd even begin to route the piping.. i mean you could route the turbo outlet into the procharger intake but idk

 

Prochargers are an inexpensive way to FI a NA car. Basically, it is an easy way to get a 20% hp increase. Like it was mentioned before, prochargers work like turbos and most of your power increase is in the upper rpm band. Prochargers also have much higher parasitic loss compared to a twin screw or roots SC. However like I said before, they are a very inexpensive and easy way to boost ponies. You see Mustangs and Camaros running prochargers all the time.

 

Easy to setup but the worse way to make power.

 

where do you people get your info from lol not to mention .. it's not cheap at all lol.. you're like totally backwards except wher eyou say alot of the power increase is up top.. lol prochargers generally give a 50-75% increase in hp on their kits they sell with low boost lol

if i post numbers higher then an m62 swap will you change your mind?

i still have traction due to the way the power comes on .. which doesnt happen with the m62 or some turbo setups

 

I'll only except that if your procharger is of the same flow rating as the M62 and are making similar pressure levels. If your procharger is of very similar specs, then I may consider eating my words.

A procharger in lamest terms is all the turbo lag with none of top end thrills.

 

none of the top end thrills? prochargers are all top end thrills lol .. and no the procharger has the ability to flow MUCH MUCH more then an M62.. thats the good part about it

and having the "turbo lag" lets you have traction but pulls like a raped ape again is it the best form of boost no... but the m62 is a pretty shitty form in and of itself

procharge flows more air, and runs much cooler... however the bigger the motor the better it will be and the higher the compression the better it will be .. 2.4 is a GREAT platform for it .. 2.2 is pretty good. the 2.0 is too small and too low of CR