I don't know what kind of power this motor is putting out.
I do know that I now need multiple napkins and that's good enough for me.

Anyone know the specs on this motor? Wow! That turbo is huge.

 

that's the engine that goes in the cobalt drag car, it runs 8's or 9's i think. there's loads of posts about it, i forget exactly what it's called though.

 

im sorry but that motor looks frikin huge.....it looks so big it almost looks impossible to put it in a cobalt

 

it would fit a drag car, if your talking why it looks so wide, its a transversly mounted engine anyway

 

yea, if you look at the cobalt drag car the hood is HUGE...

here's a link to the pics, this was originally posted in 2005. i'm not 100% sure, but pretty sure it's from this car:

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...rbash05037.jpg

 

That's the motor from Gary Gardella's Pro FWD drag Cobalt. I think it's something like 1400 hp. Pretty sure the car runs 7's. www.gardellaracing.com Look in the gallery.

 

Na my car got broken into a few weeks ago and the engin got lifted.. thanks for finding it for me

 

That is sick I love it.

 

I'll hand out rep for that one

 

if u go here http://www.garygardella.com/com/cars...2BFwd%2BCobalt its right in the gallery

 

The potential of these engines are ridiculous. Does that make the Ecotec the strongest out of all the domestic 4 cyl.? I'm curious.

 

Stock engine I would have to say no...that the SRT-4 engine is stronger.

 

He said "potential". I was thinkin about it last night, and I was wondering why more people haven't swapped Ecotecs into other cars (like people swap in SRT motors, or 4G63 motors), considering they can make over 1400 hp when built. Then it hit me, those people swap in those other motors because they are good motors in stock form. GM shot themselves in the foot by making all the stock Ecotecs complete pieces of ****, by putting the cheapest shittiest parts possible in them. Hell, the stock 2.2L Ecotec launched rods through the block at a measily 288 hp! Thats only like 235 whp! True the LSJ is a better motor than the L61, but still pales in comparison to the SRT motor or a 4G63. If GM would have built the stock Ecotecs better, they would be selling A LOT more crate motors. Everytime I talk about the Ecotec around people not well informed about cars, (meaning they only know gossip from word of mouth) they always say "Oh, I heard the Ecotec was a piece of ****".

I propose GM needs to learn how to build a stock motor. Maybe they should take some lessons from Mitsubishi

Oh, and that motor is a 1400 hp Ecotec, I don't know exactly what turbo it has, I just know its equivalent to a GT45R
Also, HOLY ****!!!! The pipe on the wastegate is as big as a stock 2.2L exhaust!!!

 

This is why you should hang out at ecotecforum.com

There are quite a few Fiero guys, Buggy guys and other random cars who have swapped in ECOTEC engines. We have a whole section dedicated to it.

Also, potential is only in means of money and thought behind it. Any engine can be made for 1400 HP if someone really wanted to do it.

One of the most well designed 4 cylinders, yes.

GM has made them the fastest and making NHRA records in the FWD classes as far as MPH and 1/4 mile times.

But I just want to make it clear to everyone that just cause they made a 1400 HP ECOTEC motor and that there is a "Build Book", it is not even a simple feet to reach half that amount of power.

 

Well, the SRT motor is kinda limited, because its extremly long stroke, it limited to around 7000 rpms even in fully built form. As most my know, to make A LOT of power with a 4 banger, you gotta rev the **** out of it. The most I've seen from a SRT motor is like 770 whp which is like 885 hp, not bad. However there are many Evos, and DSMs with 700+ AWHP which is close to 1000 at the crank, and then theres the AMS evo 8 that put down 988 awhp which is like 1300 hp! Anyway, my point is, look at the SRT motor, stock internals are safe to like 450 whp! 4G63, stock internals good for like 400 awhp which is like 550 crank! Stock LSJ, pistons go at a measily 300-320 whp Yeah, you could prolly get more out of it with a turbo, but it still is nothing compared to the other stock motors.

 

YOUR pistons went at around 300 WHP but honestly, I don't feel that was the limit.

 

This is exactly what I was thnking...the stock ECOTEC motor is not that reliable when a lot of mods come in. The SRT engine in stock form is so much better than the LSJ IMO.

 

I agree with that statement but this has nothing to do with "what engine is better" really (not saying you were trying to say that, just stating). The fact of the matter is that whats better or best is all dependant on the person/group behind it and what's intended.

Like said, just cause there are 1400 HP ECOTEC motors doesn't mean that it's the best 4 cylinder ever made...they just made it a top knotch powerful ECOTEC.

 

The EcoTec isn't such a bad motor. They use it in the North American made Ariel Atom2. That is a car that has a faster 0-60 than a McLearen (sp). It also beats many other cars in a track test, even a Honda 600RR (see Top Gear segment on YouTube). Jay Leno has even stated that the EcoTec is the new small block, and he knows his ****!

 

What's your point?

 

I guess I've been ill-informed about this engine.

Nah, I wasn't saying that. I was just wondering where it stood among the others. That's all.

 

All I'm saying is that I agree with some of the posters on this thread. The Ecotec is a decent engine. If it was some huge pile of **** like others are saying, I don't think Brammo Motorsports would use it in the Atom2. For all that say SRT this and EVO that, go get a differnt car if that's "the bees knees". You don't gotta be a dick about it.

 

It's all good.

 

You can't make anything have 1000 hp. There are some things that hinder the ability to make TONS of power. For instance, the LS series engine is a GREAT engine, however one flaw that keeps it from being a motor capable of 1000+ hp is the lack of head clamping force ie. only 4 head bolts per cylinder, other engines have 5 or 6 bolts per cylinder. When the cylinder pressure starts getting too high (around 1000 hp) say bye bye to Mr. Headgasket

For a motor to make 1000 hp, it has to have a damn good design, because just like the LS series motor, a simple design flaw can hinder an engines ability to make ultra high power levels.

 

They just didn't try hard enough LOL