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Old 10-13-2009, 01:37 AM
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Rear mount turbo twin charge SS/SC

Ok don't give me that search function B.S. I really don't have that kind of patience.
Has any one done a rear mount turbo twin charge? What i want to know is if you are sending charged air into the stock supercharger's intake will the factory bypass/boost
torque managment or what ever the **** you call it handle the boost to by-pass it
untill the computer decides it needs to make the power?. I'm very familiar with twin charge
with deisels but these ******* ECMs these days are beyond me on gas engines.
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Originally Posted by fjordbosun
Ok don't give me that search function B.S. I really don't have that kind of patience.
Has any one done a rear mount turbo twin charge? What i want to know is if you are sending charged air into the stock supercharger's intake will the factory bypass/boost
torque managment or what ever the **** you call it handle the boost to by-pass it
untill the computer decides it needs to make the power?. I'm very familiar with twin charge
with deisels but these ******* ECMs these days are beyond me on gas engines.
i was gonna do it on my car.
but then i decided to go back to stock and get a tc.
as far as i know, after all the research i've done
no one has done the

STS turbo rear mount system and the m62 together.
and its all in the tune brada.
if you don't want zzp to help ya out with that, talk to vince from trifecta performance on the tune.
he instanty agreed to help me with it when i talked to him about it.
but like i said i changed my mind :p
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The twincharged threads will give you plenty of information about twincharging.

Not sure what the benefits of this would be.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Dude... typing "twincharge" in the search box would have taken less time to type all that jumble that could be answered in the first 2 threads that come up....

All im going to say is that it has been done... now its up to you.
lol if you would have read what he said, it hasn't.
not the way he wants to do it.
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I don't think it has been done. There is a cobalt 2.2 with a rear mount turbo so you could do it on yours. As for the ecm it will need to be tuned. The by-pass valve will not release the extra air the turbo gives it. With out a tune you will run lean if you plan on upping the boost over the factory levels. You would be better off with zzp twincharge kit.
https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...=871&catid=143
Any way good luck with your build plans.
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
lol if you would have read what he said, it hasn't.
not the way he wants to do it.
Am i missing something with this rear mounting?

Is this like a remote mount?

Edit: yes it is... first post edited.
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
i was gonna do it on my car.
but then i decided to go back to stock and get a tc.
as far as i know, after all the research i've done
no one has done the

STS turbo rear mount system and the m62 together.
and its all in the tune brada.
if you don't want zzp to help ya out with that, talk to vince from trifecta performance on the tune.
he instanty agreed to help me with it when i talked to him about it.
but like i said i changed my mind :p
Thanks for your input!

Originally Posted by ShortStack
Am i missing something with this rear mounting?

Is this like a remote mount?

Edit: yes it is... first post edited.
They way I'm interested in doing it is to replace the muffler with a turbo at the rear of the vehicle. This aids in reducing uderhood temps and does away with space contraints.
There is another advantage in that the piping from the turbo back up to the engine has a volume of air that is charged greatly reducing "lag", but since it is a twin charge system in my case (SS/SC) not so much an issue. Also this distance (in tubing) back to the engine (charge air) acts like an intercooler/aftercooler what ever you want to call it.

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this would be cool to see and hear... do it!
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good lag....

oops i meant luck
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supercharger whine at the front, turbo whistle from the back lol
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Originally Posted by spike
good lag....

oops i meant luck

you'd be surprised the benefits of a rear mounted turbo.
http://www.ststurbo.com/

cooler turbo temps, cooler air temps in general, no need to replace head and downpipe.
will need an oil pump in the back for turbo though, and really there is hardly no lag.
take a look at that site.
thats what i was gonna work with, i was going back and forth on how i was going to do it and they were for it.
too bad i didn't wanna build my 2.2 ecotec engine to make it work, and said screw it time for an ss/tc lol
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Originally Posted by spike
good lag....

oops i meant luck
he would get more lag if he went with just a turbo like you.

don't hate cause he wants to do something different. i think it would be a badass setup.

maybe im looking at this the wrong way?
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Originally Posted by blackbolt89
he would get more lag if he went with just a turbo like you.

don't hate cause he wants to do something different. i think it would be a badass setup.
agreed!
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