rip out s/c and put in turbo need help gurus!
hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?

After that make your turbo fit... find a nice large intercooler to cool the charge, and purchase the stage 1 kit for the reflash... you might notice a happier revving engine with the S/C gone considering it's not robbing power to spin that pulley.
My guess that if you plugged the right plugs, and fitted the right fittings, (AKA maf translator) the Computer wouldn't notice the SC was gone.
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
sounds good.......I may go this route unless stage 2 is promising, if i decide to go turbo i gotta get all peices together, ill prob just get a loan 
Don't go cheap on the coolant and oil lines though, get braided lines... safest bet.
You can polish regular exhaust pipe for intercooler piping,(mandrel bent is best) it'll look nice and cost half of what you would buy from a vendor... and buy industrial rad hose to use as connectors...
All this knowledge brought to you by your former Turbododge owner (Daytonas, LeBarons, Shadows, etc.)
buy-em cheap, build-em cheap, and break them even cheaper!
Why would you want to turbo the 2.0?
If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.
If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.
Originally Posted by BooSSted
Why would you want to turbo the 2.0?
If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.
If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.
becasue the 2.0 allready has the internals to handle FI
It would most likely start as long as you reposition the sensors but the fuel maps would be way off. Youwould need more fuel in the middle RPM's when the turbo spools up. You might be able to drive it around as long as you don't give it all the throttle. How are you going to tune it?
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?
I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol
here is setup:
Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)
T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE
40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI
turbo BOV
all the lines and what ever
then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator
new injecors and clip
Front mount intercooler
now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question?

The best way to go about it is to NOT rip out the blower. Instead, rip out the internals of the blower, but keep the blower's pulley intact. Now the blower is turned into an air intake and you don't have to worry about adding an after market FMIC, because you're keeping all your factory cooling system.
I have also debated switching to a turbo as well....
Exactly, GTP guys do this to their M90....
Originally Posted by BullDog71ss
The best way to go about it is to NOT rip out the blower. Instead, rip out the internals of the blower, but keep the blower's pulley intact. Now the blower is turned into an air intake and you don't have to worry about adding an after market FMIC, because you're keeping all your factory cooling system.
Originally Posted by theBLUEone
I have also debated switching to a turbo as well....
Exactly, GTP guys do this to their M90....
Exactly, GTP guys do this to their M90....
You could look into the Sabb tubo setup.
It's based on the same engine.
2.0-LITER 4-CYLINDER TURBOCHARGED 210HP ENGINE
Engine specifications2.0T
TypeInline 4-cylinder turbo
Displacement121 cu. in. (1988 cc)
SAE horsepower rating210 hp @ 5500 rpm
SAE peak torque221 lb. ft. @ 2000 rpm
It's based on the same engine.
2.0-LITER 4-CYLINDER TURBOCHARGED 210HP ENGINE
Engine specifications2.0T
TypeInline 4-cylinder turbo
Displacement121 cu. in. (1988 cc)
SAE horsepower rating210 hp @ 5500 rpm
SAE peak torque221 lb. ft. @ 2000 rpm
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
sounds good.......I may go this route unless stage 2 is promising, if i decide to go turbo i gotta get all peices together, ill prob just get a loan 
Originally Posted by celicacobalt
i hate when people shoot other peoples ideas down just becuase the car isnt an expensive car, we need to support each other in our ideas
yea because if he did end up turbo-ing his car it would be somthing different... theres a lot to be said for originality imo.
You need to convert the pulley system to a Saab 2.0t to eliminate the blower pulley. Next get the Hahn intake manifold. Next I suggest a 3071 turbo or a gt30r. Use a SMT6 with 4 extra injectors. You are set.
Originally Posted by MacG321
ok, i think someone needs to calm down. you only have an ion rl... if you want to put that much money into a car why dont you just by a older cobra or camaro and dump all your cash into that. Im not trying to sound like a dick. My idea is after gm's stage 2, save up for a car thats really worth going crazywith. You know?
Im a honda boy at heart But i love Gm
i love cavaliers, i love cobalts, i love My REDLINE and i love having a sleeper that if i did indeed turbo it i would beat a cobra
Originally Posted by Twincharged
You need to convert the pulley system to a Saab 2.0t to eliminate the blower pulley. Next get the Hahn intake manifold. Next I suggest a 3071 turbo or a gt30r. Use a SMT6 with 4 extra injectors. You are set.
thank you bro ill look into this !
Originally Posted by MacG321
ok, i think someone needs to calm down. you only have an ion rl... if you want to put that much money into a car why dont you just by a older cobra or camaro and dump all your cash into that. Im not trying to sound like a dick. My idea is after gm's stage 2, save up for a car thats really worth going crazywith. You know?
too late?
2003 + saab 2.0 setup.
get everything......intake manifodl turbo manifold and turbo. be sure to get the tdo4 version everything i mean everything shoudl cost you about a grand. no real need for injectors as your injectors are the same used on the saabs.
bam your done
get everything......intake manifodl turbo manifold and turbo. be sure to get the tdo4 version everything i mean everything shoudl cost you about a grand. no real need for injectors as your injectors are the same used on the saabs.
bam your done


