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Old 07-22-2011, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DCOBALTSS
hey do you have both lsj and cobra or just cobra?
what pulley are you running... how much hp?


Another question guys for a stock 2.4 internals
which pulley can i go to the smallest, considering ill have 42s injectors, lsj and cobra heat exchangers, option b tank without dual pass endplate,
I have just the Cobra HE, no stock one and I'm on 3" pulley

haven't hit the dyno but estimated to be pretty slow with no *****
Old 07-22-2011, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
I have just the Cobra HE, no stock one and I'm on 3" pulley

haven't hit the dyno but estimated to be pretty slow with no *****
hey do you have pictures of your build i wanna see!
Old 07-22-2011, 11:37 PM
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engine bay shots?
Old 07-23-2011, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DCOBALTSS
hey do you have pictures of your build i wanna see!
I don't think I ever made a build thread on here but here's one I made on IonForums
ION Forums.net • View topic - IonNinja Build

and here's how it looks as of today...I just noticed I don't have very many good engine bay pics
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looks nice im gonna have the same setup with a stock coolant reservoir connected to the lsj h/e and the cobra h/e but unfortunately not enough cash for dual pass right now..

Does the stock reservoir have an overflow?
because im gonna get one from junk yard..
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too much coolant in the option b tank and you have no breather line coming from the heat exchanger to the tank....
and that filter on your crank case breather should not be there, thats like having a boost leak, it must return to the intake.
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Originally Posted by 07BoostedG5
you have no breather line coming from the heat exchanger to the tank....
and that filter on your crank case breather should not be there, thats like having a boost leak, it must return to the intake.
theres no fitting on the cobra he to do that

and where did you get that info from about the breather
Old 07-23-2011, 09:09 PM
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go ahead and laugh, your leaking crank case pressure, but what do I know, I just play with tools all day....
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I wouldn't really call it "leaking" but yes that is the point, to relieve crank case pressure

why do you believe that recirculating back into the intake is better?
Old 07-24-2011, 01:47 AM
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Main reason, the line connected to the intake allows filtered air to ENTER the crankcase and remove all of the blow by gasses,then they are re-burned using the exhaust manifold. By removing that line and replacing it with that little filter its allowing that build-up of all blow-by gasses onto your crank instead of getting rid of them.
Old 07-24-2011, 01:26 PM
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Not true^If you ever take the line off with the engine running you will feel that the crankcase pressure pushes itself out.No I does not need to be recirc'd.Ive ran it both ways with no difference in anything excpet being able to smell the crankcase pressure fumes.I do have mine recir'd though
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theres a difference between a push and a pull but Im not going to argue, everyone I have talked to with experience says there worth as much as a stick on vent. I respectfully agree to disagree
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yes but if you really think about it,your intake is not pulling through the pcv.PCV=Positive Crankcase Ventilation.Being the port the PCV(breather) is on the intake and not on the intake manifold there is no vacuum.Now if the pcv went to somewhere on the intake manifold(or any vacuum source I would agree.All the breather is doing is just that,relieving crankcase pressure.

Not trying to bicker here but there really is no difference other than a odor.Take a look at 90% of the turbo LSJ.They mostly run the large filter on the oil cap or the small filter on the VC.Like I said I run mine back into the intak just cause I dont like popping my hood and smelling Crankcase odor.Ive tuned with vince running both setups,and there was no effect with tuning at all.its just a preference.
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Originally Posted by 07BoostedG5
Main reason, the line connected to the intake allows filtered air to ENTER the crankcase and remove all of the blow by gasses,then they are re-burned using the exhaust manifold. By removing that line and replacing it with that little filter its allowing that build-up of all blow-by gasses onto your crank instead of getting rid of them.
Hey how do you run the lines from the option b reservoir..
I will be having the lsj h/e and the cobra h/e but no dual pass for now..
For the reservoir there are two lines in and out i guess the third one is the breather line like you said, i guess it should go to the lsj h/e because the cobra does not..

Any pic regarding the setup would be appreciated

Im gonna use this routing except for the filler i will have a stock cobalt reservoir from a junk yard what do you guys think..

My only consideration is the breather line..
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That is the diagram for a stock endplate. just instead of a fill cap, thats where the opt b tank goes.....any cobalt coolant tank from the salvage yard will do, Im using a 2.2's...the barb at the cap is where the bleeder is hooked up to...also you will need a 1/8 npt barb to replace the bleed plug on the stock lsj HE along with a .040 orifice to insert in the line. Go to CED's website and select the optB kit and download the instructions, its all outlined there in detail.
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Originally Posted by 07BoostedG5
That is the diagram for a stock endplate. just instead of a fill cap, thats where the opt b tank goes.....any cobalt coolant tank from the salvage yard will do, Im using a 2.2's...the barb at the cap is where the bleeder is hooked up to...also you will need a 1/8 npt barb to replace the bleed plug on the stock lsj HE along with a .040 orifice to insert in the line. Go to CED's website and select the optB kit and download the instructions, its all outlined there in detail.

By any chance would you be having the instructions cause im unable to download from their website.. if you do send me to


EDIT: Never mind i fount it
thanks

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Old 07-25-2011, 01:38 PM
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Using a 2.9 pulley

will there be a big difference of hp getting a 60 or 80 injectors instead of 42lb
for my stock 2.4 engine
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get 60's 80's are overkill and difficult to tune.
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80's for E85,60's for gas.I use 60's just make sure to have vince turn your idle up above commanded 650rpm.60's don't like to be that low of a idle.I still need him to turn mine up to 850-900rpm.
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
80's for E85,60's for gas.I use 60's just make sure to have vince turn your idle up above commanded 650rpm.60's don't like to be that low of a idle.I still need him to turn mine up to 850-900rpm.
Ok thanks for info, but regarding my setup am i good with a 42lb injector as well i will be running a 2.9pulley
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Originally Posted by DCOBALTSS
Ok thanks for info, but regarding my setup am i good with a 42lb injector as well i will be running a 2.9pulley
No, def not enough injector on a LE5. Make sure you get 60's for a 2.9, especially with you being from Canada. Colder temps will need more fuel to keep her happy.
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ya i wouldnt take the chance of maxing out the 42's.you go to lean and kaboom!!definately wanna make sure you got enough injector to fuel all that boost.Im sitting at about 11 psi on a 2.9 pulley but I have a super ported lsj manifold.zzp catless DP and full 2.5 exhaust which helps it breath and keep boost down.The more restriction the more boost.
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Im only hitting 10 psi on a 2.9
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altitude makes a difference too along with temperature.
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Originally Posted by 1LowLS
The more restriction the more boost.


More restriction more heat less power....

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