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Old 01-14-2015, 12:05 AM
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Has anyone done a superchips cortex 91oct flash with a k&n typhoon intake on a 09 sstc? Obviously a dyno tune would be best, but will this work for a little while? Thanks
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Super chips makes a cobalt tune?
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Has anyone done a superchips cortex 91oct flash with a k&n typhoon intake on a 09 sstc? Obviously a dyno tune would be best, but will this work for a little while? Thanks
Why? You're going to have some crazy fuel trims.
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As long as im at 11.7 @wot then I should be okay for a while tho right?
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You're gonna pay almost $400 for a generic tune when you could buy HP Tuners and change anything you want for $500? Or used HPT for under $400?
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As long as im at 11.7 @wot then I should be okay for a while tho right?
For port injection, sure, that's a perfectly "safe" afr to be in. That is of course assuming a few other factors, conditions and tables in the tune are equally as "safe".

For an engine such as the LNF though, that is far too rich. I've never actually logged a LNF with a superchips tune to say for sure what the commanded afr is but, 11.7 on a LNF is not where you want to be. Even on a conservative calibration you shouldn't be much richer than 12.2-12.4afr. Again, assuming a few other things going on elsewhere in the tune.
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For port injection, sure, that's a perfectly "safe" afr to be in. That is of course assuming a few other factors, conditions and tables in the tune are equally as "safe".

For an engine such as the LNF though, that is far too rich. I've never actually logged a LNF with a superchips tune to say for sure what the commanded afr is but, 11.7 on a LNF is not where you want to be. Even on a conservative calibration you shouldn't be much richer than 12.2-12.4afr. Again, assuming a few other things going on elsewhere in the tune.
Yeah. I know. I bought the superchip when I didn't know much about anything lol. I just put the intake on last night. No codes. Afr is at 12.3. So I'll probably wait to tune till I get an exhaust. But here comes the real question... Dyno hp or trifecta? And if I go trifecta can I do that with a mac ? Thanks again guys
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
For port injection, sure, that's a perfectly "safe" afr to be in. That is of course assuming a few other factors, conditions and tables in the tune are equally as "safe".

For an engine such as the LNF though, that is far too rich. I've never actually logged a LNF with a superchips tune to say for sure what the commanded afr is but, 11.7 on a LNF is not where you want to be. Even on a conservative calibration you shouldn't be much richer than 12.2-12.4afr. Again, assuming a few other things going on elsewhere in the tune.
SC tune is stock timing, 0.85 PE lambda, close to stock DALs, slightly raised MALT and I believe stock WG DC settings. SC tunes make around 270 whp 290 wrtq SAE on a dynojet. I retuned one guy with a SC tune back years before we had any wg control (I believe it was around august of 09) and he gained 44 whp and 50 wrtq.
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Originally Posted by DR.Feelgood
Yeah. I know. I bought the superchip when I didn't know much about anything lol. I just put the intake on last night. No codes. Afr is at 12.3. So I'll probably wait to tune till I get an exhaust. But here comes the real question... Dyno hp or trifecta? And if I go trifecta can I do that with a mac ? Thanks again guys
Considering I do all my tuning via HPTuners, I'm naturally going to be heavily bias toward you going that route.

With that said, and bias aside, trifecta is straight up garbage. This unfortunately is more than just a simple opinion of mine. It's pretty well a fact considering the logs I have seen generated out of those tune files.

on the flip side, the biggest flaw in going with HPTuners is basically this. You're at the complete mercy of the tuner in which you ultimately choose. Meaning, not all "tuners" using the product are all created equally. So for someone to say that HPT is farrrrr better than trifecta is, well, quite honestly correct and completely incorrect at the same time. It's all relative the who is tuning the vehicle. Particularly when it comes to the DI world. Most shops are still way behind the curve when it comes to this sort of tuning unfortunately.

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SC tune is stock timing, 0.85 PE lambda, close to stock DALs, slightly raised MALT and I believe stock WG DC settings. SC tunes make around 270 whp 290 wrtq SAE on a dynojet. I retuned one guy with a SC tune back years before we had any wg control (I believe it was around august of 09) and he gained 44 whp and 50 wrtq.
$400 for that nonsense?? Jeesh.

Sadly enough, I'd almost trust those calibrations more than I would trust a trifecta tune though. lol
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Originally Posted by DR.Feelgood
Yeah. I know. I bought the superchip when I didn't know much about anything lol. I just put the intake on last night. No codes. Afr is at 12.3. So I'll probably wait to tune till I get an exhaust. But here comes the real question... Dyno hp or trifecta? And if I go trifecta can I do that with a mac ? Thanks again guys
If your mac hard drive is large enough, run boot camp and install a copy of windows 7. Then you have can HPT on there, you would only need to allocate about 80gb at most for windows 7 and HPT
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So I'll probably go for HP tune. Anyone know of any good tuning shops in central Ohio that use HP?
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So I'll probably go for HP tune. Anyone know of any good tuning shops in central Ohio that use HP?
Message either of these guys, get it set up with them and a shop let them remote dyno tune you. They both know the LNF very well.
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He'd probably have a better chance of making friends with someone in his area who happens to have HPT. Most shops aren't all too keen on doing dyno tunes on their dyno without them doing the actual tuning. They're likely bound to bend him over pretty hard. Seen it first hand unfortunately. There are ways around it though.
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OP where in Ohio are you?

I am going to Cleveland next weekdend and the 3rd weekend in Feb.
If you are close, I can bring my HPT and you can tune it.
You have to pay to unlock your car though, I have no LNF cars unlocked.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
He'd probably have a better chance of making friends with someone in his area who happens to have HPT. Most shops aren't all too keen on doing dyno tunes on their dyno without them doing the actual tuning. They're likely bound to bend him over pretty hard. Seen it first hand unfortunately. There are ways around it though.
I'm sure some would. A few shops out here are a little more chilled out (maybe all the weed) you just have to rent the dyno out for a few hours or a day and I'm sure they would be fine with paying a cable use fee. Not saying it wouldnt be cheaper in the end to just buy hptuners and do a road tune
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I'm just north of Columbus. Slomotion is the most well known shop around here. Sadly, there well known for blowing up motors lol( my friends 2 sti's)
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