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Old 09-26-2008, 12:45 PM
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C&D 2008 Lightening Lap Result

C&D 2008 Lightening Lap Result



Taking the number one spot in the LL1 class the Cobalt SS/TC stepped up to the plate and hit a home run with a 3:13.00 second lap. C&D liked what they saw with the updated SS/TC.

We’re massively impressed with the new front-wheel-drive champion of the LL1 class, the Chevrolet Cobalt SS. Not only did it lop three seconds off the Mazdaspeed 3’s 2007 front-drive record of 3:16.0, it was only a half-second behind the overall LL1 record of 3:12.5 set by the Nissan 350Z Track in 2006.

Two years ago, a supercharged Cobalt SS with 205 horsepower recorded a respectable 3:20.6. We invited the ’08 Cobalt SS because it has a new 260-hp, 2.0-liter direct-injection four-cylinder turbo engine and a host of chassis upgrades including wider tires and larger brakes.

The changes made a huge difference at the track as the Cobalt’s new brakes resisted fading, its wider tires maintained their hold lap after lap, and its compliant and balanced chassis made it easy to exploit the phenomenal grip.

Gobs of power from the new engine and an optional limited-slip diff allowed the Cobalt to take most of the track in third gear. The SS hurtled forward with an anger missing in the rest of LL1 and much of the LL2 group. Despite the explosive power and front weight bias, the Cobalt SS resisted the typical understeer found in front-drive cars. The SS goes about its business with almost no drama. You only realize how quick it is when you arrive at start-finish and wonder, “How’d I get here so fast?”
Reference: Car and Driver
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good post. i am very surprised that the 350Z did that well....
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I don't want a new SS. I don't want a new SS. I don't want a new SS.





(I tell myself this quite regularly to keep my urgent need for the new SS under control.)
Cobalt SS/TC > all
Old 09-26-2008, 08:04 PM
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damn that looks sick on that angle
Old 09-27-2008, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rockSTAR_SS
I don't want a new SS. I don't want a new SS. I don't want a new SS.





(I tell myself this quite regularly to keep my urgent need for the new SS under control.)
Cobalt SS/TC > all
LOL. I'm beginning to have to do the same thing. The good reviews just keep adding to the temptation!
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I've justified my "craving" by saying that if someone will give me pay off for my car then I'll go buy it. $15,3xx is it... lol
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Originally Posted by Projekt
good post. i am very surprised that the 350Z did that well....
While the 350Z wasn't in this year's test, C&D did test one at the LL in 2006.

It was the $35,865 "Track" model and had:
  • 300 horsepower
  • six-speed manual gearbox
  • limited-slip differential
  • forged alloy wheels with sticky high-performance tires
  • traction control
  • vehicle dynamic control system
  • Brembo brakes

It was 1/2 sec. quicker than the 08 Balt SS Turbo, but cost $12,000 more.

LOL
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as a ss/sc owner , i got say this site as become the biggest teaser ad that there its is.. i wish i can get on my car go to a dealer and take a ss/tc and never look back, even thoung i will miss my sc whine...
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makes me wanna trade in my base model
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Here's a .pdf of the lap times. http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...08+Results.pdf

Just so you know, the Cobalt beat:

Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
Honda Civic Mugen Si (by 11.8 seconds)
VW R32
Dodge Caliber SRT4
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (by 6.0 seconds)
Infiniti G37 Sport
Lotus Elise SC (by 3.3 seconds!)
Dodge Challenger SRT8
Honda S2000 CR
Audi S5
Lexus IS F
BMW135i
Mitsu Lancer Evo MR

Check out some of the times on that list and compare to much more expensive LL2 cars that the Balt destroyed. It's amazing.
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Originally Posted by Lawnchair
Here's a .pdf of the lap times. http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...08+Results.pdf

Just so you know, the Cobalt beat:

Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
Honda Civic Mugen Si (by 11.8 seconds)
VW R32
Dodge Caliber SRT4
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (by 6.0 seconds)
Infiniti G37 Sport
Lotus Elise SC (by 3.3 seconds!)
Dodge Challenger SRT8
Honda S2000 CR
Audi S5
Lexus IS F
BMW135i
Mitsu Lancer Evo MR

Check out some of the times on that list and compare to much more expensive LL2 cars that the Balt destroyed. It's amazing.
On 9/26 I provided a compilation of C&D's 3 full years of LL Testing (but it was prematurely locked by Erod).

Here it is again:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...62#post2929462

2:45.9 - 2008 Mosler MT900S
2:48.6 - 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
2:54.6 - 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2:55.6 - 2008 Nissan GT-R
2:58.2 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
3:00.7 - 2005 Ford GT
3:01.1 - 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
3:01.2 - 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51
3:01.6 - 2006 Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe
3:01.8 - 2007 Porsche 911 GT3
3:03.6 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette C6
3:04.0 - 2008 Cadillac CTS-V
3:04.5 - 2007 Lotus Exige S
3:04.6 - 2007 Audi R8
3:05.6 - 2008 BMW M3
3:05.8 - 2007 Porsche 997 Turbo
3:05.9 - 2007 Ford Shelby GT500
3:06.5 - 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG
3:09.2 - 2006 Lotus Elise
3:09.3 - 2006 Chevrolet Corvette
3:09.5 - 2006 Porsche Cayman S
3:10.0 - 2006 BMW M6
3:10.5 - 2007 BMW 335i Coupe
3:11.0 - 2007 Ford Shelby GT500
3:11.2 - 2007 Audi RS4
3:11.7 - 2007 BMW Z4 M
3:12.5 - 2006 Nissan 350Z Track
3:13.0 - 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged
3:13.3 - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
3:13.5 - 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
3:13.7 - 2008 BMW 135i
3:14.0 - 2008 Lexus IS F
3:14.6 - 2008 Audi S5
3:15.0 - 2008 Honda S2000 CR
3:15.7 - 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP
3:16.0 - 2007 Mazda Speed 3
3:16.3 - 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
3:16.6 - 2008 Lotus Elise SC
3:17.5 - 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport
3:18.2 - 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
3:19.0 - 2006 Mazda RX-8
3:19.0 - 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
3:20.6 - 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged
3:20.8 - 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT-4
3:20.9 - 2006 Ford Mustang GT
3:21.8 - 2008 Volkswagen R32
3:22.9 - 2007 Mini Cooper S
3:24.8 - 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si
3:25.1 - 2006 Volkswagen GTI
3:26.5 - 2006 Honda Civic Si
3:26.6 - 2008 Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
3:29.3 - 2006 Mazda MX-5
Old 10-03-2008, 12:00 PM
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Great lap times jaja pour evos in PR cost 44K cash and cobalt SS cost 27K with out employee discount a lots of diferents
Old 10-03-2008, 08:49 PM
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Road and Track mag just tested a sedan and it beat a Lancer Ralliart, Subaru WRX, and a Mazdaspeed 3! The Cobalt impressed the hell out of them.
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Great news! Finally the Cobalt SS is getting the respect that it truly deserves!
Old 10-06-2008, 11:02 AM
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yea id love to see more around. i want that dam white one with the red Interior
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so which list is official? some times are different. like the 135i
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Pretty impressive beating ANY Elise....
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Yet again nice....and also nice to see it having better times than a $40K+ car.
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Originally Posted by williamhvx1
as a ss/sc owner , i got say this site as become the biggest teaser ad that there its is.. i wish i can get on my car go to a dealer and take a ss/tc and never look back, even thoung i will miss my sc whine...
^^x2 man, x2. I LOVE my car, don't get me wrong but the more stuff I see about the t/c the more I wish I had one. At this point it probably wouldn't be worth it to trade for one. Damn.
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Damn Im Glad To Hear The Ss/tc Is Really Impressing Other Drivers
I Knew The Cobalt Had Huge Potential

Damn Im Glad To Hear The Ss/tc Is Really Impressing Other Drivers
I Knew The Cobalt Had Huge Potential

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Originally Posted by Lawnchair
Here's a .pdf of the lap times. http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...08+Results.pdf

Just so you know, the Cobalt beat:

Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
Honda Civic Mugen Si (by 11.8 seconds)
VW R32
Dodge Caliber SRT4
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (by 6.0 seconds)
Infiniti G37 Sport
Lotus Elise SC (by 3.3 seconds!)
Dodge Challenger SRT8
Honda S2000 CR
Audi S5
Lexus IS F
BMW135i
Mitsu Lancer Evo MR

Check out some of the times on that list and compare to much more expensive LL2 cars that the Balt destroyed. It's amazing.
That is my favorite thing about it.
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Cobalt SS FTW! It's making me want to trade in or go turbo more all of the time.
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Haha i just traded in my 2006 pursuit gt, and they sold me a black ss/tc with the lsd,xm, usb radio, extended warranty 22,980 cnd.
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Wow, I have been thinking about a small car that has some speed. I was impressed by the Mazda 3 speed now this is going to be sure test drive.

Impressive times and review!
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As an ex sc owner, there's no looking back, but I loved my SC. The TC feels quite different handling wise.... unreal. If you wanted to, you could easily pull 4 wheel slides in this car, it's that stable.


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