Wow. Major Suck.

Poor GM, this is a sad day in high performance vehicle history.

 

i think one of GMs and other american auto makers, is taking the same car, and rebadging it for several lines, IE: my dad was looking at a Chevy Equinox, he liked them, but the dask had wood grain, he didnt like it, so we went to saturn, looked at the vue, they were more expensive, but had a different engine, then to pontiac to look at the torrent, same thing.


Why not make just the Equinox and option the engine instead of making it another line??
you have 3 basicly identical vehicles with the same ****.

 

Exactly. Other than different design features mostly cosmetic and interior you getting the same vehicle.

IE: Chevy Blazer. GMC Jimmy & Oldsmobile has a similar model.

 

i think they will still have fast cars....this is america.

they just wont be called ss...

 

American cars tend to fall apart more easily but simple maintenance and having a good relationship with your local dealer will have your car running to a half million miles. literally! all those bmw's and mercedes' are built idiot proof, but they are very tedious to work on. Need a brake job? new rotors! flush the whole system! wtf seriously that's a big dent in your wallet. subaru...on the car lathe. Very sloppy so far. I could go on and on. We use very simple techniques and our cars are built for simple service. These idiots overseas are just milking our economy and making plus sales on un necessary **** that could be avoided if the car was designed a little better. Just buy a damn american car and STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

 

I have read somewhere that saturn has been up for sale but nobody is even interested in buying it.
Pontiac has always been looked at as the performance edition of GM
Buick was on the market to be closed a few years ago but Buick was there since back in the day and has a market.

I agree with making the same car for 3 or 4 brands. I can see maybe making 2 like they did with the camaro/firebid.

Can Saturn(even though I really like that saturn sky).

That needs to be the first one to go.
Not one car like the Camaro or the Volt is gonna get GM out this mess. Tired of hearing people think thats gonna solve it.

Did anyone ever think that maybe this is the Horsepower downfall like what happened after the muscle cars back in the 60's early 70's? Chevell ss and all those fast as cars went extinct and horsepower was nothing especially in the 80'2 slash early 90's. The introduction of the lt1 was when it started moving up again. Especially with GM saying they are gonna have a ton of hybrids by 20whatever. Just some thought.

 

Honestly I am looking at a Cobalt when I return, but if there is no backup then I will go to another company. Simple as that.

Honda isn't a American company, but they offer jobs to THOUSANDS OF US. So we can not say screw it to every other company and go GM, because well we will be in the same boat AGAIN.

 

How bout lets see that and plus if they dont build the "SS" model that will be very bad.

 

Take a look at this article in reference to what Gm is starting to do

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...tays-what-goes

 

I agree its sucks to not have a manaul transmission on the charger srt8 and i agree the manual SS will be able to smoke me but the auto that is questionable and keep in mind my car weighs alot more than the SS

 

when the charger is redesigned in 2010, the 6.1L goes byebye, in comes the 6.4L 392 with 480 hp.

 

My opinion is that GM should just give back the other car makers to there original owners, it wouldn't be the first time an american company has done that!

Now that i love lol but with my 6.1 as it is, there is just massive torque from that hemi, except i have cracked the tranny once already so be looking for that small defect lol

 

There is a vid already out on the net of the srt-8 getting filled in by the SS, for what it's worth. I wouldnt know which one to buy... love em both.

 

From having the charger SRT-8 i love it so far, i love my interior too. And also when i hit 165 it seemed like it had more potential to go even faster, it didnt take that long to reach 165 either, btw has anyone gone against a caliber srt4 yet i would like to know the results

 

I think we are just having another fart like we had in the 70's and 80's where the cars turned into **** for awhile. But then everything will just come back better than before.

Well.. That, or we will all be driving Toyotas.

 

I hope if we are all driving Toyota's i hope its a supra with a Garrett gt4508r BB Turbo lol

 

Mine would be. That or a swapped AE86 Corolla. haha

 

hahaha or a 240 with a rb26tt engine lol

 

Sweden doesn't want Saab anymore, and GM doubts it'll survive on its own.

As for the GT500 comment, remember that thats the third tier Mustang. Camaro's third tier would have been the Z28. Only thing in that market for GM now is the Corvette...which doesn't directly compete with it.

 

That's a Nissan. Now you're cheating. lol.

Honestly, I'd love to get an R32 Skyline. If I ever got one, I'd drive it everyday and probably keep it until I died. Probably use it as my casket when I died too. lol. I ******* love those. Nismo, Mines, Blitz.. My lord.

 

Son of a f*cking bitch. Don't know how I missed this thread but that really blows. Honestly though, it does make sense for GM considering their position right now. I don't think it'll lead to a "blanding" of GM cars as long as they keep going with the really good looking models they're coming out with. Just sucks that performance will have to be on hold for a while.

 

Who wants to go in with me and get a ZR1? We'll put it up on blocks, and at the 2050 Barrett-Jackson auto auction we'll bank.

I can contribute $7.63, possibly more after I check under the couch.

 

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=142386

Alot of you need some logic in your lives.

 

Good find!

 

BTW GM cars STILL have soul, even the mainstream models.

The Malibu, CTS, Lambda's and others have all been praised for great quality and driving dynamics. GM is NOT going the route of Toyota.