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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 04:02 AM
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Like i said il check em out
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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Hey, look at the bright side. We all own a piece of history now!
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 04:22 AM
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Hey, look at the bright side. We all own a piece of history now!
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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GM is dead to me but I guess they have to do what they need to do to become the next Toyota!
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
Way to go GM, your high performance vehicles are the only ones worth buying.
You realize that in just the cobalts that 97% of all cobalts sold were 2.2's, 2.5% were 2.4's, and .5% were 2.0 SS/SC's?

I don't know the breakout in the turbo but I guarantee its less than 1%

It's either do this or no GM? Personally I would rather still have cadillac's and corvettes in 20 years when I can afford them then see them pump money into a these cars that no one is buying now anyway.

We are in downturn, with high gas prices... guess what is gonna sell? the Cobalt XFE! so applaud them, maybe this will keep the Cobalt around a little longer then originally planned and in a few years maybe the re-release a nasty SS Balt.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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hmm

what gm needs to do is bring this over here



bring this whole line of vehicles over here http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/vxr/ind...#/cars/vectra/
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OrngBalt
You realize that in just the cobalts that 97% of all cobalts sold were 2.2's, 2.5% were 2.4's, and .5% were 2.0 SS/SC's?

I don't know the breakout in the turbo but I guarantee its less than 1%

It's either do this or no GM? Personally I would rather still have cadillac's and corvettes in 20 years when I can afford them then see them pump money into a these cars that no one is buying now anyway.

We are in downturn, with high gas prices... guess what is gonna sell? the Cobalt XFE! so applaud them, maybe this will keep the Cobalt around a little longer then originally planned and in a few years maybe the re-release a nasty SS Balt.
So if the SS/SC is half a percent and the SS/TC was really only made for 18 months, then would it not seem like an SS/TC would be somewhat rare. I still plan on getting one and holding onto it for a long time.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Basically, if you have ANY special Cobalt (2.4 or 2.0), it's not like they're worth gobs of money, but they are "special" cars since they're low production.. Especially the '06 SS 2.4.. I think '06 was the only year of the 2.4 being called the SS, correct..?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Basically, if you have ANY special Cobalt (2.4 or 2.0), it's not like they're worth gobs of money, but they are "special" cars since they're low production.. Especially the '06 SS 2.4.. I think '06 was the only year of the 2.4 being called the SS, correct..?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Red07SSNA
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If OrngBalt has the right percentages, then the only really rare ones are the supers and turbo.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by adrian3938
what gm needs to do is bring this over here



bring this whole line of vehicles over here http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/vxr/ind...#/cars/vectra/
Haha, the Astra is already over here, its under Saturn, which is being axed, so supposedly it's being rebadged to stay alive.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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i must say that this really sux! I dont know about you guys, but here in MI, we need those SUV's and trucks just to be able to get around in the winter. Hell, the whole reason I got my suburban is cause I kept getting stuck in the snow with my cobalt ss.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
If OrngBalt has the right percentages, then the only really rare ones are the supers and turbo.
SC about 15K total produced 05-07
SS/NA about 15K total produced 06-07

SS/TC 2-year run but numbers not available.

Sport 2.4 7% of 08 Cobalt production -- only year made...rarest Cobalts...
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCaptain
Haha, the Astra is already over here, its under Saturn, which is being axed, so supposedly it's being rebadged to stay alive.
We do have the astra but....... the dont have any of the vxr models here which sucks. Also check out the new Insignia its pretty sweet
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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What a tragedy -- especially after they'd just finished cleaning up the SS brand.

I personally feel this is a mistake. While performance cars are never going to be 'top sellers,' they aren't meant to be. They're there to get people into showrooms, to be an institution to push the limits of a particular vehicle (possibly uncovering some new technology in the process), and for brand bragging rights.

What would GM have ever been without the classic SS? The Z28? The Trans Am? The 'Vette? Performance IS America. (And now I wonder, what about the high end Vettes?)

I just hope they continue, somehow, to produce performance cars. Let a private company produce some custom models. Something..

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Oh, and all this talk about GTI? *yawn* I've murdered two of those already since picking up the Mazda. MS3 FTMFW.

Focus ST needs to come to America.
Exactly they just got their SS brand cleaned up, this **** should have happened to them when they were putting SS on Grandmas Impalla, And Aunt Marge's Trail Blazer.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Exactly they just got their SS brand cleaned up, this **** should have happened to them when they were putting SS on Grandmas Impalla, And Aunt Marge's Trail Blazer.
Then I guess your un-informed ass has never driven Grandmas Impala SS or Aunt Marges Trail Blazer SS.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Then I guess your un-informed ass has never driven Grandmas Impala SS or Aunt Marges Trail Blazer SS.
ok the impala sucks first of all its fwd, wtf you gonna do wit fwd v8 thats just stupid, now trailblazer SS i have driven it and its pretty sweet especially the launch but besides that the other is S**t
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Actually doing **** like Yanko Camaros again is an amazing idea. They should have a line of cars produced by aftermarket groups. It would make even better, more rare cars.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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What are you gonna do with a V8 FWD? Um.. Go fast?

Have we all forgotten how everyone made a big joke out of the Cobalt SS when it first came out? They said "What's next, an Aveo SS?" Come on now.

If you can't do anything with a V8 FWD, then you surely can't do anything with an I4 FWD. Get a clue.

The Impala/Monte Carlo platform have to be FWD because they are commuter cars and also used as service vehicles. Many people want FWD because RWD sucks in the snow. Sorry, us from the north need to worry about winter.

There IS more to life than driving really REALLY fast you know..

If you want to be really technical, the original Impala SS was slow as ****. It was a trim package, not an engine package. It gave you a floor shifter and badges.

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
What are you gonna do with a V8 FWD? Um.. Go fast?

Have we all forgotten how everyone made a big joke out of the Cobalt SS when it first came out? They said "What's next, an Aveo SS?" Come on now.

If you can't do anything with a V8 FWD, then you surely can't do anything with an I4 FWD. Get a clue.

The Impala/Monte Carlo platform have to be FWD because they are commuter cars and also used as service vehicles. Many people want FWD because RWD sucks in the snow. Sorry, us from the north need to worry about winter.

There IS more to life than driving really REALLY fast you know..

If you want to be really technical, the original Impala SS was slow as ****. It was a trim package, not an engine package. It gave you a floor shifter and badges.


I am not the only one that feels this way

"Chevy has ruined a lot of names and titles in it’s day, but none so brutally as the ‘SS’ nameplate. Once upon a time, SS meant V8 powered, rear wheel drive, tire melting fun. Nowadays, the 2007 Chevrolet Impala is the closest we get. Chevy did decide to throw a V8 under the hood ( after the embarrassment that was the supercharged V6 Impala SS of recent years ). Unfortunately, Chevy still decides to throw the power at the wrong set of wheels. There is never a time when V8 goes with FWD. Never, ever. V8 = RWD, or V8 = AWD/ 4WD ; there never need to be any exceptions.

As if the whole FWD thing wasn’t bad enough, there’s the fantastically bland styling of the Impala SS. There isn’t really a whole lot to say about the styling, because there just isn’t much going on there. Nothing about the car says Supersport. Nothing at all. I look at it, I want to fall asleep. That’s all I have to say about that. Does the performance make up for the strikes against the 2007 Impala SS? "
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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ok the impala sucks first of all its fwd, wtf you gonna do wit fwd v8 thats just stupid, now trailblazer SS i have driven it and its pretty sweet especially the launch but besides that the other is S**t
i was right next to a impalla ss (last model they putout) in my stock supercharged cobalt...... they sucked
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by widowedeight
i was right next to a impalla ss (last model they putout) in my stock supercharged cobalt...... they sucked
i agree there slow, if your gonna buy a impala ss you might as well buy a charger r/t with RWD its more fun and you dont get as much understeer
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Weren't the Northstars that Caddy made FWD V8s? Albiet not marketed for performance. I think the performance division will be back. If they are going to remain competitive in other performance markets, its a must. As for the Yenko being revived, how about the ZR1's long lost cousin- the Camaro ZL-1?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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You do have to remember that the Impala is a heavy-weight American car. Of course it's not gonna be a damn Ferrari. But neither was the '96 Impala SS that everyone seems to love so much.

And what is wrong with the L67 supercharged V6? That motor is decent from the factory, and with very little, becomes a nasty ass set-up.

And you wonder why everyone makes fun of GM. Their own customers make fun of their cars.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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we'd better still see a camaro ss otherwise it's gonna kill a car that it just brought back for competition with the challenger and mustang... no ss would sink the car right away
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