tbandit420

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so im having a long debate with some friends on facebook about the lnf and lsj. anyone have a video of a zzp stage 2 lsj car vs a stock lnf. i have personally been in a race between the two and the zzp stage 2 car one by a little more then a car every time yet people seem to disagree with me so just wondering if anyone can help me out with some proof. before all the lnf nutswingers jump on my case im not saying the lsj is better then the lnf but i am saying the the lnf is not superior to the lsj at all like some think.

08inBama

I would give the edge to the Stg II LSJ.... but as far as being superior... the LNF is, lol... and i'm not talking as far as if we are building 600hp Cobalts... I mean for the average guy who mods his cars... because you put a few bolt-ons, a pulley swap, and a tune on your LSJ.. you MIGHT have 250whp... put a few-bolts ons and a 23psi tune on a LNF? it might have 315whp, lol

slapbetcommissioner

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They would make about the same whp but the lsj has a way better power band. So yes. Edge goes to stg2 lsj. Vs stock Lnf. Any other competition haha. It would be a differ t story

tbandit420

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ya when it comes to the average joe i would say the lnf is better because the average joe is getting a car loan and not paying cash. now if your paying cash(and still wanting a cobalt ss for some unkown reason) i would get a lsj over a lnf. there cheaper and u can make more power easier after you go turbo and when u think u can get a lsj for about 9k now and turbo swap it for right at if not under 3k were as most lnf's right now are going for atleast 13-14k and usually more.

bluebalt07

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No video as proof but I agree with your outcome. I pull on my buddy's lnf and he is stock other than intake, intercooler, and muffler.

ryansalazan

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i ran my friends stage 2 lsj when it was 35 degrees out one night and i was stock, he pulled me by 2 lengths and i was no lifting as well but was bone stock

Vander Nars

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Trying to get any respect for an lsj with a supercharger on it is a losing battle, some people are just nutswingers and it dont matter what u say they will not believe that an sc lsj can be a fast car.

tbandit420

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very true. right now i just have one nutswinger who just loves to argue with me. he just wont back off the fact saying that a zzp stage 2 car wont isnt at all a easy win over a stock lnf. he just keeps argueing powerband and its onyl a 10hp diffrence cause i posted some dyno graphs to help my point but its useless. ive literally shown him people have been in the race themselves and telling him the outcome and he still says that everyone on this site is wrong and hes right lmao.

bluebalt07

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Does said nutswinger even own an LNF? Because if so and its stock, race him and prove your point. If not tell him to go pound salt. Why people feel the need to nutswing off one over the other is beyond me. They are all cobalts and if modded correctly in either way can be quick. Yes a turbo is going to net you more power in the long run but what is with being so butthurt if your LNF gets beat by a supercharged car whether it be LSJ, L61, LAP, or LE5? Its not like the LNF is getting beat by a honda, now that might be embarassing.

riceburner

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i beat a stage 1 lnf twice on the highway. from 60-120 then 80-120, both by about a car length.

my mods: 2.8", 60#, injen intake, zzp longtube header/downpipe, and thats about it for power pods

but for the record he told me he was having 'boost issues' and only pushing about 15psi... whatever that means

sorry no vids

jonathan923

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hell a stock lsj can stay in a lnf's door till about 120mph how i knwo cuz ive done it. a properly tuned zzp staged 2 lsj can easily beat a stock lnf.

riceburner

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easily? maybe one of those high whp stock lsjs with a nasty tune...

jonathan923

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an lsj with your mods and a good tune should be able to take a stock lnf pretty easy is what am saying...lol

JSimons47

I have a video of a tvs LSJ vs a stock LNF? El oh el

bluebalt07

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Sounds like this stage 1 lnf was stock because stock boost is 15 psi lol stage 1 I believe is 20

tbandit420

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the best part is i posted this thread on our facebook and he still saids im wrong and just says everyone on here are a bunch of morons. he saids its a drivers race between stage 2 lsj car and stock lnf which clearly it isnt. if anyone wanna chime in on it feel free to heres a link to the facebook group and the post. Log In | Facebook

tbandit420

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heres a link to the group if it works. Log In | Facebook

user 72239

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I would say its a drivers race. I should ask my buddy who's basically a LSJ stage 2 and see who wins. I will say the LSJ has a awesome powerband but it should be close

jonathan923

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ill say if it its a gm stage 2 then yea it might be a drivers race with the lsj having a slight edge. But if its a zzp stge 2 as OP stated, properly tuned then its a no go for the lnf

tbandit420

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exactly what i said. if we were talking gm stage 2 then ya drivers race for sure and i even made sure thats not what he ment. he sticks to his opinion that a zzp stage 2 car is a drivers a race with a stock lnf. hey YOU CANT FIX STUPID

carstedt

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i had a gm stage 2 and ran a stock lnf and i beat it by a car and a half

Bluelightning

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Same outcome here. When my car had an OTTP stage 2 with their garbage canned tune and I raced my buddies stock TC. I beat it by a couple lengths, no vid though.

Buuut I do had a video destroying a trifecta tuned LNF with my TVS...

carstedt

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ill run a stock lnf with my car and we can say its a stage 2...then hell be confused lol

tbandit420

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you guys arnt helping lmao well you are but arnt lol. i wish some of you could just hop on there and explain to these morons that there wrong. now the lnf guy is just trying to say i never give up on something lol. well sorry when u and 5 other morons spent hours trying to tell me im wrong im going to defend myself and not just let you spread lies about me. now hes trying to act like he never cared instead of just saying he was wrong. i love how a few hours ago they were all 100% sure they were right and i was wrong but now that i have proven them wrong or atleast proven my point they dont care lol

carstedt

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id comment on it but i cant cuz im not friends on FB lol