Car running at 221 degrees
**** man chill your burners. I don't give a rats ass what you think. If it were my car I would not even of posted anything on this site. You take what you want from it and do your own research. If I were not sure the first thing I would of done is check the fluid level, second the fans to make sure there coming on, third am I getting heat (possible stuck thermo). It is a step process. I never said his car runs like mine. All you grumpy ass ******* just need to chill.
I'm sick of people coming on here and bashing others. I am not some young punk that knows nothing about cars. I was probably working on cars before you were a gleam in you fathers eye.
geese
I'm sick of people coming on here and bashing others. I am not some young punk that knows nothing about cars. I was probably working on cars before you were a gleam in you fathers eye.
geese
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You kids do know that normal combustion temps are about 15-1800* right?
D4 got it right, it is normal, I was at the dragstrip and did about 3 runs in 20 min, got back into staging for the forth and had to wait because a guy grenaded his differential all over the track and with the car off but in the on position(for the fans) with 70* temps mine hit 228*. Once the track was good again we were running and at the start it was at 225, on the return road it was at 201, back in staging 199 and never hit over 215 the rest of the day.
D4 got it right, it is normal, I was at the dragstrip and did about 3 runs in 20 min, got back into staging for the forth and had to wait because a guy grenaded his differential all over the track and with the car off but in the on position(for the fans) with 70* temps mine hit 228*. Once the track was good again we were running and at the start it was at 225, on the return road it was at 201, back in staging 199 and never hit over 215 the rest of the day.
prime example. why should he check out the cooling system? do you know what normal temps are on the various models? just because you don't see those temps in your 2.0 doesn't mean it's not normal on a 2.2 at idle.
not directed towards you, but there's a lot of bad info going around in this thread, and you guys are unnecesarily freaking the guy out. he's thinking there's something wrong with his car, when there's not. when i had my 2.2 i got freaked out the first time the temps got up that high, but it was not unusual at all especially when idling, like the op said he was. the 2.2 runs hotter than the 2.0 by a pretty decent amount.
like i said earlier, as long as it's not always that high, and goes back down when you start moving, absolutely 100% nothing to worry about. anything under 230 is considered "normal"
not directed towards you, but there's a lot of bad info going around in this thread, and you guys are unnecesarily freaking the guy out. he's thinking there's something wrong with his car, when there's not. when i had my 2.2 i got freaked out the first time the temps got up that high, but it was not unusual at all especially when idling, like the op said he was. the 2.2 runs hotter than the 2.0 by a pretty decent amount.
like i said earlier, as long as it's not always that high, and goes back down when you start moving, absolutely 100% nothing to worry about. anything under 230 is considered "normal"
I didn't feel like it
the 2.2 does get up there...mine at times went that high when i had it..but its nothing to bad..but like everyone said..if its constantly there driving and idling..that not good...u shud b fine..cmon its a cobalt..lol
Here's a copy/paste from GM Dealerworld about coolant temps for the 08 balt. If ya notice, the coolant temps before the PCM will command the fan on high is over 221°F that the original poster was mentioning. Most GM techs will say it's normal for being parked idling or at a light for an extended period of time.
Cooling System Description and Operation
Cooling Fan Control
The engine cooling fan system consists of one cooling fan and two relays. The cooling fan has 2 windings in the motor, one winding is for low speed and the other winding is for high speed. Voltage is supplied to the relays from the 30 A cooling fan 1 and 30 A cooling fan 2 fuses. The engine control module (ECM) controls the low speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 1 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 1 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan low speed winding. The ECM controls the high speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 2 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 2 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan high speed winding. The cooling fan motor is grounded through its own ground circuit.
The PCM commands Low Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
Engine coolant temperature (ECT) exceeds approximately 106°C (223°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 310 kPa (190 psi).
After the vehicle is shut off, the ECT at key-off is greater than 140°C (284°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 3 minutes.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
ECT reaches 110°C (230°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 655 kPa (240 psi).
When certain DTCs set
Cooling System Description and Operation
Cooling Fan Control
The engine cooling fan system consists of one cooling fan and two relays. The cooling fan has 2 windings in the motor, one winding is for low speed and the other winding is for high speed. Voltage is supplied to the relays from the 30 A cooling fan 1 and 30 A cooling fan 2 fuses. The engine control module (ECM) controls the low speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 1 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 1 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan low speed winding. The ECM controls the high speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 2 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 2 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan high speed winding. The cooling fan motor is grounded through its own ground circuit.
The PCM commands Low Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
Engine coolant temperature (ECT) exceeds approximately 106°C (223°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 310 kPa (190 psi).
After the vehicle is shut off, the ECT at key-off is greater than 140°C (284°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 3 minutes.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
ECT reaches 110°C (230°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 655 kPa (240 psi).
When certain DTCs set
Here's a copy/paste from GM Dealerworld about coolant temps for the 08 balt. If ya notice, the coolant temps before the PCM will command the fan on high is over 221°F that the original poster was mentioning. Most GM techs will say it's normal for being parked idling or at a light for an extended period of time.
Cooling System Description and Operation
Cooling Fan Control
The engine cooling fan system consists of one cooling fan and two relays. The cooling fan has 2 windings in the motor, one winding is for low speed and the other winding is for high speed. Voltage is supplied to the relays from the 30 A cooling fan 1 and 30 A cooling fan 2 fuses. The engine control module (ECM) controls the low speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 1 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 1 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan low speed winding. The ECM controls the high speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 2 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 2 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan high speed winding. The cooling fan motor is grounded through its own ground circuit.
The PCM commands Low Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
Engine coolant temperature (ECT) exceeds approximately 106°C (223°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 310 kPa (190 psi).
After the vehicle is shut off, the ECT at key-off is greater than 140°C (284°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 3 minutes.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
ECT reaches 110°C (230°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 655 kPa (240 psi).
When certain DTCs set
Cooling System Description and Operation
Cooling Fan Control
The engine cooling fan system consists of one cooling fan and two relays. The cooling fan has 2 windings in the motor, one winding is for low speed and the other winding is for high speed. Voltage is supplied to the relays from the 30 A cooling fan 1 and 30 A cooling fan 2 fuses. The engine control module (ECM) controls the low speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 1 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 1 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan low speed winding. The ECM controls the high speed fan operation by grounding the cool fan 2 relay control circuit. When the cooling fan 2 relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan high speed winding. The cooling fan motor is grounded through its own ground circuit.
The PCM commands Low Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
Engine coolant temperature (ECT) exceeds approximately 106°C (223°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 310 kPa (190 psi).
After the vehicle is shut off, the ECT at key-off is greater than 140°C (284°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 3 minutes.
The PCM commands High Speed Fans ON under the following conditions:
ECT reaches 110°C (230°F).
A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 655 kPa (240 psi).
When certain DTCs set
Thank you, this is exactly why I do not worry a bit when mine hits 231 degrees in traffic. This is also why most cars have cooling gauges that move to a specific point and never change position unless the temp exceeds a certain mark. "Dummy gauge" is exactly right.
Case in point - my friend has a S2000. It has a standard cooling gauge that, once warmed up, never moves a bit. A couple weeks ago, we installed a mechanical water temp gauge, and I pointed out to him that this will read anywhere from 185-225 depending on driving conditions. Sure enough, as the temp moved up 40 degrees, his stock "needle" did not indicate any difference at all. It's programed only to read hot if the car is actually overheating. (or close to it)



