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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Cobalt/Mustang Comparison

As some of you know, I traded in my cobalt for a 2007 Mustang GT and I wanted to give my review and comparison to my old cobalt ss/sc. I would have pictures up, but tropical storm Erin is over Houston right now.

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-Obviously the stang has way more torque. It easily break traction during my 1-2, 2-3 shifts.
-Funny thing, the stang weak below 1800 rpm (Its very noticeable in the first gear). I actually have a hard time launching it cause you got to slip the clutch a little to stay in the power band longer than you would have to with the cobalt. But once that baby hits 2000 the power pours out and you are literally pinned back in the seat. Also first gear goes all the way to about 43 mph.
-40 mph roll: The cobalt would be able to hang for about 1 sec from a 40 roll because of the extremely tall 2nd gear. But after about 46mph, the stang would take off with authority. 2nd gear last to about 70+ mph.
-3rd gear was practically 2nd. When I would try to pass someone in the cobalt it would take about a 2nd to build up enough steam to pass someone up. In the stang, the car immediately responded and pulled away. In third gear I can go from 50-70 in 3 seconds easy.
-4th gear. Practically equivalent to the cobalt 5th gear. It accelerated somewhere between the cobalt 3 and 4th gears. At 60 the RPM is at 2500.
-5th gear. Cobalt wins hands down. Step on the gas, and you will go nowhere. It is actually annoying because when I am on a highway and I go up a slight grade or an exit ramp, I got to downshift to maintain speed without flooring the accelerator. And I am in flat old Houston. At 60 the RPM is 1500.

I will write more once I have more time.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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so what you are saying and correct me if i am wrong

the GTO is faster than the cobalt ss/sc ?

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Ive raced a few new stangs from a 40 roll they beat me but I wouldnt say it was with authority

but i respect your opinion
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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That GTO thing must be a running gag or something. I am not getting flamed, you read my article and you decide for yourself.

Originally Posted by SSCobalt~SSZ24
Ive raced a few new stangs from a 40 roll they beat me but I wouldnt say it was with authority

but i respect your opinion
Yea, i haven't raced a cobalt to get the full truth, I am just going off of feeling and how quickly the speedometer goes up.

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I'm sorry. I just think it's wrong to compare a FWD FI 4-cyl "tuner" car to a RWD NA V8 "muscle car"

It's apples to oranges. Two completely different worlds.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Actually it is well warranted to compare. I owned both and I just wanted other people to see what it MAY be like if they owned both. Comparison.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
I'm sorry. I just think it's wrong to compare a FWD FI 4-cyl "tuner" car to a RWD NA V8 "muscle car"

It's apples to oranges. Two completely different worlds.
Then why are there so many war stories of SS running against GT's?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Then why are there so many war stories of SS running against GT's?
Beat me to it! I think its cause a fair amount of "tuner" owners suffer from cubic inch envy. Its like they feel the need to constantly validate themselves by trying to take on cars with double or triple the engine.

Its your basic Napoleon complex.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Then why are there so many war stories of SS running against GT's?
B/C people do it... IDFK... what the crap kind of question is that anyways?

It's kinda like comparing a SS to a Boxster... sure, we can beat 'em... but it's a totally different class of car. A car isn't just about what's under the hood... there's a lot to consider and I'm sure the Mustang will whoop the Cobalt in everything except handling and fuel mileage.

I've seen Civics that can hand a Corvette it's ass any day of the week... but I don't see people making comparisons of them. Not saying that it couldn't be done... but there's just so much different between the two it's difficult to make an even comparison.

Not knocking this guys attempt... it just dosen't make sense to me.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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i have a slap stick automatic in my camaro and when i take off at half throttle then slam down on it , it starts spinning and i have to back it down to about half throttle until about 40 yea it has that much torque but which its a 400 cubic inch.

i personally wouldnt get a mustang GT unless it had a 302 that is alot of money for a little 289.

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan

I've seen Civics that can hand a Corvette it's ass any day of the week... but I don't see people making comparisons of them
That's because this isn't a honda board.

This thread makes me miss my firehawk.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
B/C people do it... IDFK... what the crap kind of question is that anyways?

It's kinda like comparing a SS to a Boxster... sure, we can beat 'em... but it's a totally different class of car. A car isn't just about what's under the hood... there's a lot to consider and I'm sure the Mustang will whoop the Cobalt in everything except handling and fuel mileage.

I've seen Civics that can hand a Corvette it's ass any day of the week... but I don't see people making comparisons of them. Not saying that it couldn't be done... but there's just so much different between the two it's difficult to make an even comparison.

Not knocking this guys attempt... it just dosen't make sense to me.

I would agree if my review was a professional one. Also I completely agree with you when it come to handling because this car cannot turn without drifting and loosing control. I see there is a lot of things to learn.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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It was either C&D or Motor Trend that ran the SS/SC, 'stang GT, and RX-8 around a road course...

SS/SC beat the GT b/c it was able to take the turns faster. The new GT has plenty of straight line muscle, but is plain out too big... that's what turned me away from getting one. The RX-8 beat the SS/SC by mere tenths of a second... it was faster in the turns, but the SS gained in the straights b/c of its superior hp.

Put a pro-kit and some sway bars on that GT... it'll handle much better.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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I assume ur talkn about a stock cobalt ss/sc. A balt with very little mods would beat a new mustang gt. Their quite a bit quicker than the old ones tho.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Well... more than just "a few" esp. if going from a dig. I/H/E, Stage 2, and something for the wheel-hop will point you in the right direction. The new GTs are like 270WHP... so pretty stout, dispite their weight.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
Well... more than just "a few" esp. if going from a dig. I/H/E, Stage 2, and something for the wheel-hop will point you in the right direction. The new GTs are like 270WHP... so pretty stout, dispite their weight.
From a roll a stock balt would prob. only lose to a new gt by a car or two, but if it just had a little power adder, it could hang rite with, or maybe even beat it. A stage 2 balt would get one fairly easy from a roll i think. I beat a new gt with exhaust at the 1/8 track before my exhaust mods by about 2 cars. Im not sayn they're slow, just the ss/sc isnt far behind stock. I raced one from a roll too not too long ago with current mods and i tore him up pretty bad.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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not all GT's are faster than cobalts. i've beat a few myself.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Ah... Red.... threadjack time.

How's those LEDs working? What time did y'all get done?

My shifter will be in today... so it'll be installed by tonite.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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they're on, they work for like a second. i think the button is bad. i'm calling the man that sold them to me later today to ask him. all i have to do is figure out whats wrong with the wires at the button. because when you have power/ground, they come on for a sec then go off. idk... lol..

did you get the hurst shifter?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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it's on the UPS truck right now... should be there by the time I get home.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Get over it people

Stock Cobalt SS/SC slower than the following vehicles. Stock SRT-4's, Stock Mazda Speed3, Stock 05-07 Mustangs, Stock STI's, Stock EVO's, Stock GTO's, Stock Camaro's
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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who ever says a stock gt is faster than a stock cobalt is on drugs. some may be, but not all. i've kicked so many mustang's ass. i've beat 'em when i was stock and they had intake and exhaust..
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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so wait im confused, the gto isnt faster than my cobalt, and my cobalt can take on any car.... SWEET!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEcotecSS
who ever says a stock gt is faster than a stock cobalt is on drugs. some may be, but not all. i've kicked so many mustang's ass. i've beat 'em when i was stock and they had intake and exhaust..
he is talking about the new gt.... 2005-2007 (s197). They can run mid 13's auto or manual trapping 103-105 stock. An intake/tune new gt should slaughter a stage two ss/sc, people have dipped into 12's with just intake/tune/exhaust.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Stock for stock a new GT will walk all over an SS. Comparing a modded vehicle to a stock one is just ricerish.
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