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Old 01-30-2007, 04:11 PM
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Hmm i like the 2.4's "body-kit" better but i like the way the 2.0 drives, i test drove one the other day and then i got in my 2.2 and i didnt wanna drive it anymore haha.
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Originally Posted by Satchmo
WTF?
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING

this is why they have roads with no speed limits in germany.. bc they take their driving seriously.

its also why the gov't wants to raise the legal driving age... uve gotta b kiddin me right? texting while driving?
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My 2.0 SS/SC with the stage II is my daily driver. I appreciate the 5 speed, 7000 red line, 240hp, and the acceleration when I drive it around town instead of the big dog. I use it to teach the kids how to drive a stick (the Z06 is waaaaaaayyy too much for a novice), save on gas during the week and keep a smile on my face.
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"If you want a sport compact, that has power, can be modded easily to just under 300whp, handles/corners awsome, great striaghtline performance, while still getting pretty good gas millage, etc.... go for the ss/sc"

No, get an SRT-4 hahaha. ;x

This'll get a war started!
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Originally Posted by UglyOrangeLS
"If you want a sport compact, that has power, can be modded easily to just under 300whp, handles/corners awsome, great striaghtline performance, while still getting pretty good gas millage, etc.... go for the ss/sc"

No, get an SRT-4 hahaha. ;x

This'll get a war started!
no doubt! or ss/sc vs soltice gxp ..ss/sc vs next years hhrss LOL
Old 01-30-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
I know im gettin a manual but im gonna miss textin the most definitely. Maybe once i get used to stick il be able to do it but not as easily. I like to do stuff while drivin but a manual is definitely worth it because autos are really slow, especially wit 120hp.
Please do everyone a favour and take the bus.
Old 01-30-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
Please do everyone a favour and take the bus.
Agreed.
Old 01-30-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PuSha050
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING

this is why they have roads with no speed limits in germany.. bc they take their driving seriously.

its also why the gov't wants to raise the legal driving age... uve gotta b kiddin me right? texting while driving?
Na its easy cuz i don even have to look at the screen. I jus gotta make sure i don use the wrong word wit t9. When you get used to it, its easy. Im not an idiot and wouldnt risk textin if it could get me in an accident. I gotz mad skillz yo
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
Na its easy cuz i don even have to look at the screen. I jus gotta make sure i don use the wrong word wit t9. When you get used to it, its easy. Im not an idiot and wouldnt risk textin if it could get me in an accident. I gotz mad skillz yo
Note to self.......avoid New Jersey......
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
Na its easy cuz i don even have to look at the screen. I jus gotta make sure i don use the wrong word wit t9. When you get used to it, its easy. Im not an idiot and wouldnt risk textin if it could get me in an accident. I gotz mad skillz yo
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idk... but once i (and my friends for that matter) drove a manual car, I never want to be driving an automatic again.

The 2.0 is just too fun for me. Granted I am young, but I'm not retarded with it, and I love driving it. I couldnt imagine being in a different car.
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Originally Posted by monkeiboy
Note to self.......avoid New Jersey......
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Originally Posted by an0malous
You do realise that black on black is a color option for the 2.0 too right?

My car is black exterior with black on black interior.
i'm with an0malous on this one. i love my all black interior. and black exterior. couldn't get any nicer. just wish i could keep it clean in the winter. car looks like a dalmatian at this point
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Originally Posted by TVS_SS
They are in two totally different leagues..

one is kinda sporty "Looking" and more mainstream and cheaper

the other is targeted for performance, straight line and cornering..

I honestly think you need to think about what you want.. becuase there is no comparing them.
i would like to disagree with your statement.


The 2.4L has far more potential than the 2.0L given enough time for production of parts.

The 2.4L is cheaper yes, but as the 2.0L being more performance, straight line and cornering? the 2.4L can hold its own in autocross against a 2.0L, its a drivers race.

Throw a supercharger on the 2.4L and I bet we'll net more hp than the 2.0L does.

but thats enough of my rant.

Good Day Gentleman...im going to sleep.
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I agree with TCarter..The 2.4 has been around for some time now and is a damn strong platform, the biggest difference now is the VVTi. The way I look at it, I have no problem getting beat by another GM product, just as long as it's not my fault..lol..Just messin.
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I think I would have to disagree with that, the 2.4 does have potential, but it does not have more potential than the 2.0.... The 2.0 was made for performance where as the 2.4 was mostly made for decent daily driving power and fuel economy with sporty looking appearance. Saying just throw a supercharger/turbo on the 2.4 and see what numbers it makes is a wrong way to compare the cars too, I can defend that by saying throw a race prep motor, built 4L65E and a huge turbo on the 2.0 platform and see what happens. Its a never ending arguement.... I think the creater of this thread was just comparing this two cars stock for stock anyways.

Stock 2.0>Stock 2.4
Modded 2.0>Modded 2.4
Modded 2.4>Stock 2.0(when i say modded, i mean more than just a intake and exhaust....ie. force induction, nitrous or a built motor)
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Originally Posted by rick1217
I think I would have to disagree with that, the 2.4 does have potential, but it does not have more potential than the 2.0.... The 2.0 was made for performance where as the 2.4 was mostly made for decent daily driving power and fuel economy with sporty looking appearance. Saying just throw a supercharger/turbo on the 2.4 and see what numbers it makes is a wrong way to compare the cars too, I can defend that by saying throw a race prep motor, built 4L65E and a huge turbo on the 2.0 platform and see what happens. Its a never ending arguement.... I think the creater of this thread was just comparing this two cars stock for stock anyways.

Stock 2.0>Stock 2.4
Modded 2.0>Modded 2.4
Modded 2.4>Stock 2.0(when i say modded, i mean more than just a intake and exhaust....ie. force induction, nitrous or a built motor)

that statement doesnt apply. with that comment your talking about swapping motors.

If you put the same supercharger on the 2.4 as the 2.0...the 2.4 will perform better in every aspect, VVTi is a wonderful feature about these cars, that and we have a bigger base to work off of.
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What happened to you goin to bed?? LOL..And that triple 6 post count. Unfortunately this argument could go back and forth till everyones blue in the face until it is actually done. I believe both motors are DAMN strong and have quite alot of potential and WOOT!!! to GM for finally coming up with some good sport compact competitors.
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i was goin to bed..until I got a call from Tricky1 saying my sites down


....now im going to sleep again,

Peace
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Night..lol
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Originally Posted by TCarter
that statement doesnt apply. with that comment your talking about swapping motors.

If you put the same supercharger on the 2.4 as the 2.0...the 2.4 will perform better in every aspect, VVTi is a wonderful feature about these cars, that and we have a bigger base to work off of.
The 2.4 has high comp ratio and higher displacement, so I am pretty sure it can make more power with the same s/c, same boost, etc... but what are the limits on the stock 2.4 engine? What are the limits on the stock tranny compared to the stock 2.0 tranny, the 2.0 has a way better suspension, not saying anything bad about the 2.4 but the 2.0 is a better car all around. VVTi is for fuel economy, not for making HP. Bigger is not always better.....the ecotec started off as a 2.2, then it was destoked to 2.0 so it can rev higher, etc.... etc...so it can make/handle more power.

The 2.4, you have to do work to make it a better car, you can drive a stock ss/sc off the lot and already have a great performing car....and only takes a few easy mods to make 250+whp....

FYI...If you did run the stock M62 s/c on the 2.4 with 12+psi, I will bet you, you will blow the engine, although, A 2.4 with around 8psi would probally put down bigger numbers than a stock 2.0, but all the 2.0 will need is a smaller pulley, injectors and a tune and it will make more power than the 2.4 will make on the stock internals.
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Isn't it about time for another 10-page discussion about how accurate the Oil Life Monitor is? Those were a whole lot more entertaining than this one.
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Originally Posted by css9450
Isn't it about time for another 10-page discussion about how accurate the Oil Life Monitor is? Those were a whole lot more entertaining than this one.
no doubt,this this has gotten Ghay! . I had a grampa of a car (vibe gt) with the turbonetics turbo and it was putting down more than anything on this site,so any motor has potential
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Originally Posted by g5mike
theres no comparrison the 2.0ss/sc is a beast,but I'll give credit were it is due,for a naturally inspired car the 2.4 kicks ass on other NA cars and it can be modded nicely to get great gains

My 03 Hyundai Tiburon took a 2.4 SS Three times!! That car is not deserving of the SS badge. They should call it an RS or nothing at all. I love my 06 ss/sc though!
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Originally Posted by kenhebe
My 03 Hyundai Tiburon took a 2.4 SS Three times!! That car is not deserving of the SS badge. They should call it an RS or nothing at all. I love my 06 ss/sc though!
you are correct and long before you came on this site,there was a poll and most agreed that a "rs "or something was more deserving,there are many car brands out there running lower hp cars than the 2.4ss and they call them gt etc...but you can have that much more hp you need to know how to drive it,so unless your an amateur car racer or a truck driver, I,m sure a 2.4 can rat race with a 2.0


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