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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Cobalts Underpopulated?

I was thinking about this earlier today:

-The SRT-4 started selling in late 2002 with the 2003 model, and the car in new condition was for the most part off the lot in late 2005, (early 2005 around my area). I see tons more SRT-4s running around with a bunch more aftermarket support.

-The Cobalts started selling in I believe late 2004 with the 2005 models. They are now selling 07's off the lot, they don't have nearly as much aftermarket support and I hardly ever see them on the road.

I know I have to factor in that the SRT-4 has been around late 02 and still is around today, but the Cobalt is easily 2 years old, when the SRT-4 was two years old they were still popular and had a ton of aftermarket support. I don't understand it? The Balt even had a commercial.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Since I got my SS/SC in July,I see Cobalts ALL the time.Never saw them until I got one.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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I can't walk 10 feet without seeing a cobalt. If you're referring to the SS yes they are scarce. The SS has been out for just over 1.5 years and the aftermarket is slow thats for sure. Mainly due to the lack of appeal of the SC from the tuner perspective and lack of interest b/c of the wing and 2 doors in the general public prespective.

As for the srt4 it became very popular quick especailly when there was the one and only article that stated the srt4 ran 5.3 0-60 and 13.8 1/4 mile. Once ppl heard that they started selling like crazy and the turbo aftermaket took off. Than theres the other 2 groups of ppl. Every moron that doesnt have alota money and wants to go fast buys a srt4 and the other group would be the ppl that mistook it for a mid level neon (can't see how) and bought it not knowing what it really was. Also taken into account is 4 doors instead of 2.

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Everyone and their dog that wanted to go stupid fast in a straight line and didnt care about exterior, interior, what ppl thought or driving a neon bought one.

PS I never heard about the srt4 until 2004 and they stopped making them in 2005. But after I realized why, the 03's were garbage from what I have read and heard.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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i would not go so far as to say i see them "often" i see a few a week... and i live in north jersey where there's assloads of people
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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I must see a minimum of 10 cobalts a day. I only see like 2-3 SS/SC's each week though. I do drive a lot- just hit 19k miles, had the car since late February.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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wow, there must be lots by you guys.... i've only seen 1 cobalt ss/sc EVER besides at the dealer, and members from here... and i almost never see other cobalts, at least the coupe... i see a few sedan's... i've also never seen one in person that has my color, blue granite metallic
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
wow, there must be lots by you guys.... i've only seen 1 cobalt ss/sc EVER besides at the dealer, and members from here... and i almost never see other cobalts, at least the coupe... i see a few sedan's... i've also never seen one in person that has my color, blue granite metallic
do u live in mountains or something....just messin with ya man but go newhere somewhat populated and ull see cobalts galore.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
wow, there must be lots by you guys.... i've only seen 1 cobalt ss/sc EVER besides at the dealer, and members from here... and i almost never see other cobalts, at least the coupe... i see a few sedan's... i've also never seen one in person that has my color, blue granite metallic
They're everywhere I look. lol
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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I see 3-4 LSes a day, I only saw an SS once and never seen an SS/SC. (Vancouver, BC)
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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**** guys my bad. Let me clearify, I never see SS/SC's or SS/NA's. I see a lot of 2.2's. I can honestly say I have seen under 10 since they have been out.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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I can't walk 10 feet without seeing a cobalt. If you're referring to the SS yes they are scarce. The SS has been out for just over 1.5 years and the aftermarket is slow thats for sure. Mainly due to the lack of appeal of the SC from the tuner perspective and lack of interest b/c of the wing and 2 doors in the general public prespective.

As for the srt4 it became very popular quick especailly when there was the one and only article that stated the srt4 ran 5.3 0-60 and 13.8 1/4 mile. Once ppl heard that they started selling like crazy and the turbo aftermaket took off. Than theres the other 2 groups of ppl. Every moron that doesnt have alota money and wants to go fast buys a srt4 and the other group would be the ppl that mistook it for a mid level neon (can't see how) and bought it not knowing what it really was. Also taken into account is 4 doors instead of 2.

To sum up.....
Everyone and their dog that wanted to go stupid fast in a straight line and didnt care about exterior, interior, what ppl thought or driving a neon bought one.

PS I never heard about the srt4 until 2004 and they stopped making them in 2005. But after I realized why, the 03's were garbage from what I have read and heard.
I'm really sick of the interior and exterior deal with what other 4bangers have to say against the SRT-4. It doesn't have the luxuries of a Cobalt, but it does just fine how it is. The Viper seats kill the Recaros soooo bad its not even funny. The cockpit of the car does look plain and not as attractive or appealing as the SRT-4, but its defenetly IMO a more comfortable spacious ride then the SS/SC.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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that wanted to go stupid fast in a straight line
The cars also do really well in twisties too. Especially the ACR's.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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i see them every once in a while... i don't see that many of ANY SS model
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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do u live in mountains or something....just messin with ya man but go newhere somewhat populated and ull see cobalts galore.
haha!! no way... i live in north jersey, maybe 10 miles from manhattan!! it doesn't get more populated than that...
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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I'm really sick of the interior and exterior deal with what other 4bangers have to say against the SRT-4. It doesn't have the luxuries of a Cobalt, but it does just fine how it is. The Viper seats kill the Recaros soooo bad its not even funny. The cockpit of the car does look plain and not as attractive or appealing as the SRT-4, but its defenetly IMO a more comfortable spacious ride then the SS/SC.
Why do u think u keep hearing the comparison?. I have driven many srt4's test drove the **** out of the thing when trying to figure out what i wanted for a car. ultimately its garbage inside. The seats are nice for performance but take a road trip in them. "I have theres nothing wrong with them" sure.........cuz ur use to it. Ever riden in ur back seats HOLY ***** that was one of thee worst experiences of my life. Roomy and comforatable?? you must be a smaller guy cuz I kept elbowing the co-driver last time i was in one. Comfortable, no offense man but you got some nerve damage some where. If you're arguing "these" facts than theres no point in continuing this deabte because u'll never understand. When I looked at everything I needed in a car the SS always won out over the srt4. I will gladly sacrifice some performance and alota potenital to fulfill the other 20 criteria that were on my list.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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The cars also do really well in twisties too. Especially the ACR's.
Tell that to the SS's that are dominating almost every race in their division. As well as holding their own against cars of a higher class. Lastly try to argue that to the SS's being penaltlized with weight for being "too quick" in their class. Last car to receive these penalties was the BMW race team.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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I see cobalts all the time.. I haven't seen a SS in a month or two and I live in a big town..
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4
I was thinking about this earlier today:

-The SRT-4 started selling in late 2002 with the 2003 model, and the car in new condition was for the most part off the lot in late 2005, (early 2005 around my area). I see tons more SRT-4s running around with a bunch more aftermarket support.

-The Cobalts started selling in I believe late 2004 with the 2005 models. They are now selling 07's off the lot, they don't have nearly as much aftermarket support and I hardly ever see them on the road.

I know I have to factor in that the SRT-4 has been around late 02 and still is around today, but the Cobalt is easily 2 years old, when the SRT-4 was two years old they were still popular and had a ton of aftermarket support. I don't understand it? The Balt even had a commercial.
And your point is????
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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i see a lot of 2.4's but the sc's are rare and I like it that way
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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i see a lot of 2.4's but the sc's are rare and I like it that way
the only time i see 2.4/2.0 is at our meets other than that its alot of base models i see floating around.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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I see a decent number of LS/LT sedans around here... few coupes... I've seen only one 2.4 SS... and I've seen 3 SS/SC's that belong to non css.net members. Too bad they were going the opposite direction from me... I swear I'm gonna get a big css.net windshield banner.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Why do u think u keep hearing the comparison?. I have driven many srt4's test drove the **** out of the thing when trying to figure out what i wanted for a car. ultimately its garbage inside. The seats are nice for performance but take a road trip in them. "I have theres nothing wrong with them" sure.........cuz ur use to it. Ever riden in ur back seats HOLY ***** that was one of thee worst experiences of my life. Roomy and comforatable?? you must be a smaller guy cuz I kept elbowing the co-driver last time i was in one. Comfortable, no offense man but you got some nerve damage some where. If you're arguing "these" facts than theres no point in continuing this deabte because u'll never understand. When I looked at everything I needed in a car the SS always won out over the srt4. I will gladly sacrifice some performance and alota potenital to fulfill the other 20 criteria that were on my list.
Funny thing lol. When I first sat down in an SRT-4, I said to myself with my buddy in shotgun, "The back doors have crank windows!", he said, "Who the **** cares, its not like you'll be back there anyways." What do you know, its right. No nerve damage, 6 ft tall and think the car is nice. Its not a rode trip car, but neither is the SS by any means. I love th fact that the SS has XM and Onstar and MP3 capability, but I think the SRT-4 is just the overall meanier, faster, funner, better looking car to drive. To each his own though. I love the Cobalt so much aswell.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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And your point is????
I'm not sure if your being a smart-ass or if you actually cant understand the point of this thread, but if you cant understand, then reread it a few times and it might catch on to you. The point is, why are these cars so rare in the time they have been out.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Funny thing lol. When I first sat down in an SRT-4, I said to myself with my buddy in shotgun, "The back doors have crank windows!", he said, "Who the **** cares, its not like you'll be back there anyways." What do you know, its right. No nerve damage, 6 ft tall and think the car is nice. Its not a rode trip car, but neither is the SS by any means. I love th fact that the SS has XM and Onstar and MP3 capability, but I think the SRT-4 is just the overall meanier, faster, funner, better looking car to drive. To each his own though. I love the Cobalt so much aswell.
Dude I like the srt4s alot and I agree its more aggressive and faster. LOL that was the 2nd thing I said the first time I got in the car. 1st thing was "so this thing is turbo?" The dealer rep went from smiling to looking for a "holyshit" bar
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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I got the point, and I think you made it in a civilized way. I disagree with your evaluation of the two cars, but at least you're not being a jackass with the way you have done it.
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