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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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i just got done reading the new consumer reports with reviews for all new cars, and they ripped the ss/sc apart. its kind of stupid, i hate those magazines
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Details? Wanna post the report?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Is this like the other CR post?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Gotta love price not being a factor.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Gotta love price not being a factor.
You want them to say its ok that it sucked because its cheap???
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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You want them to say its ok that it sucked because its cheap???
No but at least factor in the 5-8K price difference when comparing two cars. Since when did people go out and cross shop cars without looking at price.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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We arent winning them over with our amazing build quality on these "American Revolution" cars. Doesnt look like the the cobalt will be joining the good bets list anytime soon.

CR Good Bets
The best of both worlds

These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests over the years and have proved to have several or more years of better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.


Acura Integra
Acura MDX
Acura RL
Acura RSX
Acura TL
BMW Z3, Z4
Buick Regal
Chevrolet Prizm
Ford Crown Victoria
Ford Escort
Mustang (V8)
Honda Accord
Honda Civic
Honda Civic Hybrid
Honda CR-V
Honda Element
Honda Odyssey
Honda Pilot
Honda Prelude
Honda S2000
Infiniti FX35 (V6)
Infiniti G20


Infiniti G35
Infiniti I30, I35
Infiniti QX4
Lexus ES300, ES330
Lexus GS300/GS400, GS430
Lexus IS300
Lexus GX470
Lexus LS400, LS430
Lexus RX300, RX330
Lincoln Town Car
Mazda Millenia
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Mazda Protegé
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mitsubishi Galant
Nissan Altima
Nissan Maxima
Nissan Murano
Nissan Pathfinder
Pontiac Vibe

Subaru Forester
Subaru Impreza
Subaru Impreza
WRX, STi
Subaru Legacy
Subaru Outback
Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Avalon
Toyota Camry
Toyota Camry Solara
Toyota Celica
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Echo
Toyota Highlander
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Matrix
Toyota Prius
Toyota RAV4
Toyota Sequoia
Toyota Sienna
Toyota Tundra


CR Bad Bets

These models from the Used Cars to Avoid list have shown multiple years of much-worse-than-average Used Car Verdicts. They have regularly shown more problems than most models each production year.

BMW 7 Series
BMW X5 (V8)
Chevrolet Astro
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Express 1500
Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
Chevrolet Venture
Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
GMC Envoy
GMC Jimmy
GMC Safari
GMC Savana 1500
GMC Sonoma (4WD)
Jaguar S-Type
Jaguar X-Type

Kia Sedona
Land Rover Discovery
Lincoln LS
Lincoln Navigator
Mercedes-Benz CLK
Mercedes-Benz E-Class (V8)
Oldsmobile Alero
Oldsmobile Bravada
Oldsmobile Silhouette
Pontiac Aztek
Pontiac Trans Sport/Montana
Saturn Vue (AWD)
Volkswagen Cabrio
Volkswagen Jetta
Volkswagen New Beetle
Volkswagen Passat Wagon (V6)
Volvo XC90
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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^For what its worth I owned a "bad bets" vehicle (2003 Chevy Trailblazer) until it had 100,400 miles on it. The only thing that messed up on it was the ignition switch which cost less than 50 bucks. I think CR is full of ****...
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by trent_ky
^For what its worth I owned a "bad bets" vehicle (2003 Chevy Trailblazer) until it had 100,400 miles on it. The only thing that messed up on it was the ignition switch which cost less than 50 bucks. I think CR is full of ****...
Agreed.
I know people with many of the 'bad bets' and they have well over 150,000 miles on them with no issues.

I don't even need to say it... But I will... Consumer Reports has to be paid off.

Scott
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Adirondack_Cobalt
Agreed.
I know people with many of the 'bad bets' and they have well over 150,000 miles on them with no issues.

I don't even need to say it... But I will... Consumer Reports has to be paid off.

Scott

Not so much paid of as presenting data thier primary target audience wants to hear.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Yea...a Mazda Dealership who are morons...they treated me like nothing...called me up the other day and I told him I was looking into the Chevy Cobalt. Hes like oh did you read the current Consumer Report? He told me the Cobalts are one of the worst econo cars out there...I paused for like 4 seconds...I just said eh...and hung up...

I dont believe em...those "PROS" dont know ****.....if your a pro they should stick with certain select of cars...not everyone on the market...
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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they are full of ****.. and they are paid off
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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lol Now you guys know how the J-bodies felt, we never got love from the magazines.

I guess they see you guys are our predicesors and don't expect much.

I think the SS/SC is a very nice car and at a great value as well. I guess they are too SRT-4'd out to realize it. Oh well.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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this is soley based on one persons opinon, not a group opinon. you do realize that correct?
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trent_ky
^For what its worth I owned a "bad bets" vehicle (2003 Chevy Trailblazer) until it had 100,400 miles on it. The only thing that messed up on it was the ignition switch which cost less than 50 bucks. I think CR is full of ****...
Agreed. CR is useless for anything involving automotive information.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Okay I don't think this has been posted but there is a common known reason why higher priced cars are higher on the list.

When giving a review a person is likely to look more favorably on a car they payed more money for because they don't want to admit that they payed more money than they needed to. Thus said, people who buy imports (usually) will report their cars better than actuality because they don't want to admit to themselves that they payed to much, or that they made a bad decision. Vs. people who buy cheaper cars will report everything and justify it as being cheap.
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