can we merge these two threads, there are two identical topic ones

 

I know you just mistyped, but it is an M90, not M92.

 

yeah man thanks for catching it though!

 

Um...the Grand Prix uses an Eaton M90, not an M92...I should know, I own one. The 3800 series motor in any form is going to be done by the end of 2006 or 2007. So, all M90'ed car will be obsolete in 2 years. GM is doing away with supercharging motors...it's a fact.

They are being replaced with 3.5, 3.6, and 3.9 liter motors. I.E. Cadillac CTS, Monte Carlo, and Impala. The Grand Prix and the Lacrosse are the last 2 remaining cars to run the 3800 series motor. Once the 3800 motor leaves the lineup, so does the Eaton M90 supercharger. It will be a sad, sad day when GM doesn't make the 3800 series motor anymore. It has been one of the most durable, best running V6's ever made by anyone.

 

Stuff never gets old.

 

back to the original topic *wades throuhg all the useless bullshit*

Sounds like welcome information to me!

I think everyone with an ss/sc was hoping for a (dun du dun dun) SRT Stage 3 equivalent

This would be some of the best news yet if it pans out.

Keep us posted if you find anything.

 

Cobalt Stage 4 and Cobalt Stage 5 = 2008 Chevy cobalt turbo charged

 

wut are the hp numbers on the 08 turbo balt?

 

WOW....this type of stupid **** is why only a handful credible people still post on this site .....and by the way, the dealerships are the LAST people to know about this type of stuff.......your friend is full of ****

 

You're right about the M90s...but you're wrong on the motors. Bravo for trying though. They will be placing in the LS2 in one of the series of the new Grand Prix. The replacement is already out in Australia under Holden. It is the Commodore. http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...ry?vehicleid=4

With the way it looks from Holden, they will keep the 3.5L in only the G6s and use only the 3.6Ls and LS2s in the replacement of the Grand Prix. I feel the 3.5L is too little of power for that large of a car. Also, the CTS (not CTS-V) only offers the 3.6L and a 2.6L...no 3.5L and 3.9L.

 

GM isn't doing away with supercharging motors. Caddy has their supercharged V-Series cars, and I will make an educated guess that the next gen cars will be supercharged versions of the UV8 engines coming out in the next couple years.

And I'm not saying that intenseSS is full of ****, but generally the dealers are the last to know on this stuff. I bugged my dealer about the Staged kits, long after the SEMA show even, and they still were useless with regards to info. I was telling them stuff.

I would just take this info with a grain of salt until GM releases any info confirming it.

 

very true, just recently a guy in PA mentioned that the dealers over there know absolutely nothing about the stage kits! This was in the rl forums. Like mentioned, it isnt ManLaw till GM releases it.

 

lets not forget the supercharged Blue devil corvette mmmm650HP

 

That’s true because the dealer i deal with didn't even know stage 1 and 2 existed. The same dealer keeps telling me my ABS and mysteries engine rattle doesn't exist. I’m starting to doubt they even know ant thing about my car! I should rip into it myself.

 

The dealer is telling you your ABS doesn't exist?

LOL, sorry, I had to.

Oh, and I'm not holding my breath on the Blue Devil either. While I'm sure there will be a higer power Corvette in the near future, I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if it was a supercharged Vette. I think GM wants to go NA, but I'd take an LS7 with an M112 or better on it any day.

 

stage 4 and stage 5 interesting KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THIS!!!!!! but yeah I heard gm stage 2 alone can blow A stock evo away

 

 

i play with EVOs now

 

The older 3800 supercharged engines did in fact use the m62, but they switched over to the m90 quite a long time ago. The 3800 was a good engine in it's time, but it is VASTLY outdated. The High Feature V6's are better in every possible way.

Vandy- the CTS has the high feature 2.8L and 3.6L available. I do not know of any 2.6L, not that it really matters.

 

why is it when people say anything about the supercharger getting an upgrade or something new for lsj's, people freak out

... yet when theres a post about a POSSIBLE turbo cobalt people cream their pants.

IMO supercharger > turbo. I like its reliability and dependability. Why do you think almost EVERY higher end car uses superchargers? Look at ALL high performance BMW's... very few run turbos.

To the OP... if this is true i think its amazing news. I think adding a turbocharged cobalt into the mix would only create greater segregation amoungst the community and would be a bad move on gm's behalf as it doesnt create "brand pride" as it will no longer be "cobalt vs srt 4 vs mustang gt" instaed "supercharged vs turbocharged" but hey, they dont give a **** about community, they only care about $$$

 

Sorry I’m a nightshift guy so some I’m normally so dead tired in the morning that I forget to add works...........our just miss spell them. what i meant was ABS problem it’s been there three times and that haven’t fix it, same with the rattle.

 

I don't think this is really accurate, yeah higher end cars MAY use them but all in all i think it's more like half and half. srt4, grand national, porche, volkswagon, saab, the old ford merkur's there are plenty of examples of long live turbocharged vehicles. also, it is a well known fact the turbocharging has historically been more efficient. personally, i like the smoother delivery of power that a supercharger gives and i think that a good twin rotor supercharger setup would give a turbo setup a run for it's money.

 

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not exactly high end cars your sayin besides porsche...... I do beleive supercharging is more reliable... on a stock block and everything... but there is alot more power to be made with turbo...

 

Don't forget diesel engines used in the commercial transportation industry.

 

Not to be a ******, but Saleen S7 is a V8 twin turbo. That's a pretty high-end, top-of-the-line performance car in my opinion...