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Old 12-07-2011, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyP
I really can't say I blame you, it was something I considered as well. They're nowhere near as fast as a Balt, but they're still sport, are very nice to drive, and are pretty comfortable as well.
After getting a "fast" car (wouldn't even consider it fast, just very quick) I decided that speed isn't everything. For me 90% of the time, I do the speed limit. So for me I didn't really care I was "fast" for the most part. I mean, when I saw another car I was like, I can kill it, I can kill that, pfft I'd smoke you etc. Sooo.... I was left with a harsh ride full of rattles and that's it.

Right now, I can't afford the switch unfortunately after recent events, but I plan on changing in a year or so.

I just want something with some get up and nice!

I was also considering WRX, and Evo, but I'm scared of Evo purchases.

Tommy was your car paid off or did you just take a hit. Right now I owe less than it's worth so that's good
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Originally Posted by leemanfor
Meh, I would like a new Evo but honestly I do not want the payment.

OP, your list of fail mods is the reason your car sucks. Take it back to stock and then figure out if the problem is your car or your mods.
to be honest everything on the car was on it when i got it except the zzp pcm but i only got that in hopes to rid myself of the 5psi issue which is why i got so frustrated, it has came back for the third time but everyone keeps saying these mods are bad but whats so bad about them? im honestly clueless because imo i thought greddy, synapse, and twm were great products but this is my first turbo'd car too so to say the least im disappointed and just want it to run right.....

bad part is the guy sold every stock part that went to the car or at least i assume he did because i recieved none of it.....i think im going to cut out a piece of steel and delete the bov and just go back to the stock setup....think this would help?
Old 12-07-2011, 04:46 PM
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I owed about $4000 less than I got for it, so I used that money and the money from my grand prix (which was paid off) as a big down payment.
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Originally Posted by etnies
to be honest everything on the car was on it when i got it except the zzp pcm but i only got that in hopes to rid myself of the 5psi issue which is why i got so frustrated, it has came back for the third time but everyone keeps saying these mods are bad but whats so bad about them? im honestly clueless because imo i thought greddy, synapse, and twm were great products but this is my first turbo'd car too so to say the least im disappointed and just want it to run right.....

bad part is the guy sold every stock part that went to the car or at least i assume he did because i recieved none of it.....i think im going to cut out a piece of steel and delete the bov and just go back to the stock setup....think this would help?
yes .. yes 10000x yes
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yes .. yes 10000x yes


to be honest id rather my car run right then hear it sneeze anyday lol
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
the evo is a better car overall no doubt. better platform for power and definately faster in the 1/4. as for long stretches, i think plenty of war stories have confirmed that an evo is slower than an SS/TC on an open stretch so i fail to see how the SS/TC couldn't beat an EVO on a track like the ring. that being said the EVO may have an advantage coming out of corners so who knows. both are very capable cars and are able to beat each other with the right circumstances.. bang for the buck.. cobalt... nicer car? evo.. i'll try both stock on forza 4 when i get it and let yas know! LOL
according to MT tests, the evo traps at same/lower than an SS/TC which is crazy since it gets a much better launch and has more power. it is around half a second faster to the 1/4 mile but that's only gained in the launch which happens only once on a track so most of the time (mid range) the Cobalt has the advantage and it's lighter so it will also has the advantage there. the only advantage the evo would have is coming out of the corner and probably better stability at high speeds because of our rear suspension. I do have Forza 4 so I can let you know . I think I'll do it on Laguna Seca cause i'm familiar with it
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
that's not an EVO ^^^^

that's a huge turbo with a tube chassis and EVO body panels wrapped around it haha

sick car but it needs a front end lol
thats not a huge turboooo. .... its a time machine....

see when full boost occurs, you crap your pants and it sends you back to the days when you were a kid and did it on the daily lol
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thats not a huge turboooo. .... its a time machine....

see when full boost occurs, you crap your pants and it sends you back to the days when you were a kid and did it on the daily lol
Pfft, I can take it
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I can too as long as no diaper rash occurs, i has more hair on de bottom now, so it takes longer to clean up than the younger days.... my crack looks like a red yedi for gods sake. wait that was just way too much info.... lol.
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
I can too as long as no diaper rash occurs, i has more hair on de bottom now, so it takes longer to clean up than the younger days.... my crack looks like a red yedi for gods sake. wait that was just way too much info.... lol.
Oh gawd
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Lmaooo
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~

@ OP - if you want to move on, that's your decision - and I wish you the best... but I hope this isn't a "grass is greener on the other side" deal ~ I can think of at least one person here who "upgraded" to an EVO, and has of late been seen posting lamentations of wanting his old SS back...
Conversely, I've seen, and understand some other people trade up their CSS/TC for a late model GTI (-60hp) ~ and be happy with their Golf...
I would just encourage you to be sure you're making the change for the right reasons.

But @ TommyP;
I'm not sure what class the Evo is in, but the CobaltSS/TC obliterated the prior record holder for the compact class ~ and iirc was only bested by a car which was thinly veiled as a 'production/street' car...

I'm not saying that the CSS/TC is hte king of cars by a long shot, but sometimes it's easy to stack a car that it's totally outclassed by...

GMTunerSource.com - 2009 Cobalt SS Gets Great Reviews From RiceBoyTV.com

  • 8:22. Eight minutes and twenty-two freakin' seconds. That number, friends, is the time it takes Chevrolet's new Cobalt SS to run one full lap of Germany's esteemed Nurburgring Nordschlieffe. That's seriously fast. The original Godzilla, the R32 Skyline GT-R, takes the same amount of time to run the 'Ring, as does the E46 M3. For further reference, that time is also six seconds faster than a 993 Porsche 911 and 16 seconds faster than a Honda NSX. As we said, the new Cobalt SS is seriously fast."
  • "What's really impressive about this lap time is the fact that we're talking about a freakin' Cobalt here - a budget GM coupe. How can an economy car - a front wheel-drive one at that - be faster around the 'Ring than the esteemed sports cars mentioned above? The simple answer: the engineers at GM Performance Division are pretty damn good."
  • "We've driven many front drive turbocharged cars on a racetrack, and we can say with certainty, that the Cobalt SS is among the best of the best."
  • "We'll even go so far as to say that, if we needed to choose a front drive car to race competitively in, the Cobalt SS would be our first choice."
Magazine: Car & Driver
Issue: November 2008
Article: Track Meat/Lightening Lap; pp46-64

Held at Virginia International Raceway - 4.2 mile round course.
LL1 = under $30,000
LL2 = $30,000-$60,000
Cobalt was only one of three cars in the 'LL1' class (they seem to not use the same cars year after year - and instead only invites cars which have changed from the year prior -it reads as though the SS/SC was invited for the 2006 running of the Lightening Lap);
THe cobalt not only eclipsed all the other LL1 cars - screw this I'll just type out the list up to the Cobalt;

Class - Car - lap time/mph
LL1 - Cobalt SS Turbocharged - 3:13.0/78.3
LL2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evoltion MR - 3:13.3/78.2
LL2 - BMW 135i - 3:13.7/78.1
LL2 - Lexus IS F - 3:14.0/77.9
LL2 - Audi S5 - 3:14.6/77/7
LL2 - Honda S200 CR - 3:15.0/77.5
LL2 - Dodge Challenger SRT8 - 3:16.3/77.0
LL2 - Lotus Elise SC - 3:16.6/76.9
LL2 - Infinity G37 Sport - 3:17.5/76.6
LL2 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI - 3:19.0/76.0
LL1 - Dodge Caliber SRT4 - 3:20.8/75.3
LL2 - Volkswagen R32 - 3:21.8/74.9
LL2 - Honda Civic Mugen Si - 3:24.8/73.8
LL1 - Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0 - 3:26.6/73.2
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Originally Posted by soundjunky
@ OP - if you want to move on, that's your decision - and I wish you the best... but I hope this isn't a "grass is greener on the other side" deal ~ I can think of at least one person here who "upgraded" to an EVO, and has of late been seen posting lamentations of wanting his old SS back...
Conversely, I've seen, and understand some other people trade up their CSS/TC for a late model GTI (-60hp) ~ and be happy with their Golf...
I would just encourage you to be sure you're making the change for the right reasons.

But @ TommyP;
I'm not sure what class the Evo is in, but the CobaltSS/TC obliterated the prior record holder for the compact class ~ and iirc was only bested by a car which was thinly veiled as a 'production/street' car...

I'm not saying that the CSS/TC is hte king of cars by a long shot, but sometimes it's easy to stack a car that it's totally outclassed by...

GMTunerSource.com - 2009 Cobalt SS Gets Great Reviews From RiceBoyTV.com



Magazine: Car & Driver
Issue: November 2008
Article: Track Meat/Lightening Lap; pp46-64

Held at Virginia International Raceway - 4.2 mile round course.
LL1 = under $30,000
LL2 = $30,000-$60,000
Cobalt was only one of three cars in the 'LL1' class (they seem to not use the same cars year after year - and instead only invites cars which have changed from the year prior -it reads as though the SS/SC was invited for the 2006 running of the Lightening Lap);
THe cobalt not only eclipsed all the other LL1 cars - screw this I'll just type out the list up to the Cobalt;

Class - Car - lap time/mph
LL1 - Cobalt SS Turbocharged - 3:13.0/78.3
LL2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evoltion MR - 3:13.3/78.2
LL2 - BMW 135i - 3:13.7/78.1
LL2 - Lexus IS F - 3:14.0/77.9
LL2 - Audi S5 - 3:14.6/77/7
LL2 - Honda S200 CR - 3:15.0/77.5
LL2 - Dodge Challenger SRT8 - 3:16.3/77.0
LL2 - Lotus Elise SC - 3:16.6/76.9
LL2 - Infinity G37 Sport - 3:17.5/76.6
LL2 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI - 3:19.0/76.0
LL1 - Dodge Caliber SRT4 - 3:20.8/75.3
LL2 - Volkswagen R32 - 3:21.8/74.9
LL2 - Honda Civic Mugen Si - 3:24.8/73.8
LL1 - Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0 - 3:26.6/73.2
thank you sir.
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no problem

it seems that one of the common themes here is to slag on the CSS.
it's a compact chevrolet - and keeps being stacked against cars in different price & class ranges...
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Originally Posted by TommyP
House with a helipad? That's badass.
Yeah.. It was owned by a guy that had a lot of clubs in town. I'm not sure if he still lives there though because one of his places got shut down for selling to minors. Heh.
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For my taste, the STI is much better than the Evo. Besides, the Evo with the options I like it come up to well over $5k than the STI.
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only thing i would trade my balt for is a vette lol. im keeping this car for at least another 6 years. then ill look into the new c7 if the c7 sucks then a used z06 will do just fine
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I love my Cobalt. The end.
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I keep seeing you guys talking about Evos with options and being slow and heavy and all these 2009/2010 comparisons, and not understanding any of it, then I remember that the X exists. As if that's really an Evo.



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one of his places got shut down for selling to minors. Heh.
Pretty much every bar/club in my area could get shut down for that.



Apparently no one can spot a 17 yr old with a fake id smh.
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careful with the switch. it might get targeted for being foreign and get spray painted. lol sorry it had to be said
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
why am i not surprised to see a thread like this. Since when is getting an evo is the biggest upgrade coming from a cobalt? yea evos are nice and all, but they break just as much if not more than cobalts due specially if you dont know what ur dealing with.
this.
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u guys are acting like Evos are nice cars, there slow unless worked. and everybody and there mothers have them.
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Originally Posted by bignicky1
u guys are acting like Evos are nice cars, there slow unless worked. and everybody and there mothers have them.


Fast =/= nice


I don't know how many Evos and balts are in your area, but I see far more SS balts than I do Evos. 4 Evos total in my area, mine included, at least 8 SS balts, maybe more.
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Rare to see an evolution or a balt here. Tons of subies tho
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Originally Posted by soundjunky
no problem

it seems that one of the common themes here is to slag on the CSS.
it's a compact chevrolet - and keeps being stacked against cars in different price & class ranges...
exactly and they even ignore the fact that, performance wise, it beats quite a few of those that outclass it


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