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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Heat Exchanger????

Anyone Have The Link To The Cx Racing H.e The Smaller One I Cant Seem To Find It

IS THIS THE ONE?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alumi...ayphotohosting

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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yeah thats the one i have, the smal one...heres the big one http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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yeah thats the one i have, the smal one...heres the big one http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
thats not the big one
OTTP stopped using the CXR HEs and went with a different unit which is much larger than the CXR one
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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yea i want the smaller one cause fitment would be easyer.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:34 AM
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are you gonna run one or two?
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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i was thinkin bout running this one and the stocker
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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i think i'm gonna run just one, but i will be running a bigger unit.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:40 AM
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well i figure even if i just run this cx one it will be better then the stocker
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:43 AM
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well i figure even if i just run this cx one it will be better then the stocker
yea i hear you i read somewhere with the bigger one running just one would be better, but with the small one i figure it would be best to run both inline since the small one doesnt hold as much coolant, i dunno though
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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go with a bigger one by itself, ditch the stocker all together. Go with the OTT kit.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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^x2. Ditch the stock one and get the OTTP one or get the CXR and use the how-to in my sig
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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That doesnt look like it has much capacity. We built ours to fill the entire grill and have a lot of coolant capacity to resist heat soak. Man $240 is a lot of money for that OTT core.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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That doesnt look like it has much capacity. We built ours to fill the entire grill and have a lot of coolant capacity to resist heat soak. Man $240 is a lot of money for that OTT core.
i know you're trying to be "pro ZZP" and all, but dude...simple math. 430inł vs 580inł. OTTP clearly wins this battle.

If you want, you can make a new one just like OTTP did and have it be even bigger (somehow)
If youre comparing yours to the CXR ones, the small CXR is 20inł smaller, and the large CXR is 50inł larger
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
i know you're trying to be "pro ZZP" and all, but dude...simple math. 430inł vs 580inł. OTTP clearly wins this battle.

If you want, you can make a new one just like OTTP did and have it be even bigger (somehow)
If youre comparing yours to the CXR ones, the small CXR is 20inł smaller, and the large CXR is 50inł larger
I said capacity, like fluid capacity. Fluid capacity equals good. At what point is going bigger not give any more gains, just added weight?
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tim
I said capacity, like fluid capacity. Fluid capacity equals good. At what point is going bigger not give any more gains, just added weight?
it stops showing gains when the HE has dissipated ALL heat that the laminova cores have added. As you get closer to that number though, it will become exponentially harder to remove more heat, and at some point in continuing this process, yes you will hit a point where the extra cooling does not justify the weight gain.. I dont believe any of the HEs that are run on cobalts by us are at this pooint yet, and neither does GM, considering the time attack cobalts run a ginormous griffin one.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Are the cx Heat exchangers a dual pass core? or are they just single.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tim
I said capacity, like fluid capacity. Fluid capacity equals good. At what point is going bigger not give any more gains, just added weight?
I understand you work for ZZP and all, But there are always going to be better products out there.

Truth of the matter is the OTTP h/e is bigger.

The ZZP one is nice to, and cheaper. But the overall cooling is going to be better with the OTTP
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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ZZP is a little too big. I've got the Small CX Racing Heat Exchanger and I love the way it looks. One sec, I'll get some pics up of it. Install was fairly easy too, just sucked I was by myself.



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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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ZZP heat exchanger:
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tim
That doesnt look like it has much capacity. We built ours to fill the entire grill and have a lot of coolant capacity to resist heat soak. Man $240 is a lot of money for that OTT core.
Thats crazy immature seeing as how you work for ZZP.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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ZZP just acts like a bunch of children...

They just seem to bad mouth other vendors to get people to come to them..

Its the new Blitzkrieg Advertising scheme.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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so the big question is it better to run the stock h/e and ottp h/e or just go with the ottp h/e by itself?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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I ran both, it doesn't hurt the performance of the vehicle and doesn't hurt my IAT2's. Where you run into the problem is when you run a bigger heat exchanger, like the ZZP or the Big CX Racing. The stock heat exchanger takes up too much room and you will have to cut part of your bumper to get it to fit.

But if you're going by drop in * for your IAT2's, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is the best. I can only tell you that OTTPerformance told me that they did extensive testing on the large core and small core CX Racing Heat Exchanger and found that the small core did better for cooling.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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I ran both, it doesn't hurt the performance of the vehicle and doesn't hurt my IAT2's. Where you run into the problem is when you run a bigger heat exchanger, like the ZZP or the Big CX Racing. The stock heat exchanger takes up too much room and you will have to cut part of your bumper to get it to fit.

But if you're going by drop in * for your IAT2's, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is the best. I can only tell you that OTTPerformance told me that they did extensive testing on the large core and small core CX Racing Heat Exchanger and found that the small core did better for cooling.
In no such way will you have to remove any part of your bumper to fit the zzp heat exchanger along with the factory one still on the car. The heat exchanger that you see on the blue ss was installed with the bumper cover still on. Our heat exchangers are larger and utilize the whole open area of the bumper for cooling, Also our exchangers are a dual pass core which seperates the coolant more and exposes it more to the ambiant airflow. Now don't get me wrong i am not slamming any other companies products, but we also have done testing and went through a long process of design to get it right.

p.s. i am the actual hands on person at zzp who builds all of our heat exchangers at zzp if anyone has any questions please feel free to direct them to me! thanks!
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tfab55
In no such way will you have to remove any part of your bumper to fit the zzp heat exchanger along with the factory one still on the car. The heat exchanger that you see on the blue ss was installed with the bumper cover still on. Our heat exchangers are larger and utilize the whole open area of the bumper for cooling, Also our exchangers are a dual pass core which seperates the coolant more and exposes it more to the ambiant airflow. Now don't get me wrong i am not slamming any other companies products, but we also have done testing and went through a long process of design to get it right.

p.s. i am the actual hands on person at zzp who builds all of our heat exchangers at zzp if anyone has any questions please feel free to direct them to me! thanks!
Tfab...you gotta get Matt and zoomer to stp makin posts like the previous ones in this thread. makes your company look bad. I have your HE btw, and i Love it! but just so you know, the OTTP one is significantly larger, and the CXR large one is also slightly larger. Yours does have the most surface area though.
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