Shez

Damn, that sucks that you have emissions testing. Since I have a new car, I don't have to get inspected until 2013. And supposedly the world will end before that so.... Haha

swazzees

lol
im gonna need to test in 2011......and i dont have a shop to get under the car......but i work @ GM and I get great shop rates so it wouldn t be too expensive, more of a pain in the butt........

I'm not going to worry about 1-3 hp unless I dyno out @ 298 or 299 lol

tom.g

iTrader: (4)

I too will be getting a DP fairly soon and not sure which one to get. I want to go catted aswell from what I here there is a smaller chance of throwing a CEL with a catted downpipe.

Options as far as I know options are:

http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com...fdsh-TC/Detail

http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...%20SS%20TC.htm

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dcategory=5617

http://www.synapseturbo.com/mm5/merc...ode=downpipegm (catless)

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1016&catid=155

http://cobalt.dejonpowerhouse.com/ (catless)

Any others?

Shez

I've seen people dyno at 299 so you never know, man. Haha.

swazzees

i dont wanna dyno 299 man.....
lol
if i buy catless.....which i wanna it will cost me $40 to change it back to stock and then $40 to put it back after...i guess its only 80 bones every 2 years....... or find my own shop and do it myself...car is just so damn low

Shez

Changing downpipes isn't too hard. Just get a jack. You can do it!

DoMiStIc_RuSh_06

iTrader: (1)

i have the CIA catted dp and i love it

swazzees

this is what i was thinking i wanted.......how did it change the sound of your stock exhaust???

like before thoughts and after???

DoMiStIc_RuSh_06

iTrader: (1)

made it a bit louder, deeper but nice tone overall.....awesome quality as well

swazzees

i know the quality is there.....
i dont want to change sound too much

catted = quieter.........= less 3 hp or so lol
not catted = louder by how much i dunno

hahn vs. CIA

man like i posted earlier I am rehhhterted when it comes to making a decision

Shez

Not too much louder. You'll have some nice gurgles and ****. Definitely sounds awesome. I don't know how the "high flow" cat sounds, though.

swazzees

so your catless........hahn??
or what
im convinced
calling turbo tech and cia.......
the dollar is high and shipping is prob an extra 25 bones or sooooooo


booooooooo

Permafried-

Uhh...dude your car is an '09, emissions is every so many years after the car is 5 years old if I remember correctly. I had my '05 LS from May of '05 to February of '09 and never had to run an e-test once. I think AFTER the vehicle is 5 years old then it's every 2 or 3 you have to get it done before renewal.

It's a crock of **** anyways but you'll need the cat to pass it at any reputable shop.

swazzees

huh
shows how much i know
I was wondering when you were going to chime in
I can get the catless hahn for $100 cheaper or so from TTR.....looks like that will be my choice
even if i have my car in 5 years and it cost 100 to change it back and forth for emissions...you calculation on etest times are correct im good for 7 years @ the same price to buy catted.

sounds like an easy peasy decision now.

thanks bud

Permafried-

Np dude, good to see that money burning a hole in your pocket

swazzees

the issue isnt as it seems....

my wifey was stressin cause she had no ideda what to get me for xmas
she wished she new what parts i wanted she said but is car dumb....
lol
anyways i said to her today hey i will pick out my present and order it and u can wrap it up...
she was pretty excited about that and it looks like it will cost her $314 US unless there is any dealios this friday??

so that and my GMS1 later on.........isnt gona get me my 300 hp but a wee bit closer

OntarioKev

If your goal is 300, throw on the catless downpipe, and get a custom tune over the GM Stage tune, guaranteed to be over 300whp.

Kevin

swazzees

weve chatted over at occ, i have same name
i wanna stay gms1 and be ovver 300 whp

OntarioKev

Just seems like a waste to keep throwing parts at a car to obtain a certain power level when there is a cheaper way of doing it.

Check out other peoples dynos, how many GM stage 1 tuned cars have hit the 300whp mark, and what mods did they have?

Kevin

swazzees

when and if i need to upgrade my clutch i will tune
if i tune it makes me go get a clutch sooner than later

and i dont need to be fast like ninja...lol good job by the way i went for a quick ride

OntarioKev

Lol, btw you can easily make a tune for the car that limits the low end tq so you don't cause the clutch to slip, and give you the whp in the upper powerband.

Just because Sean wanted all out tq, doesn't mean you have to get it with a tune

Kevin

swazzees

i dont know **** about a custom hp tune
sounds good...but i work rught at the dealership....im kinda in a place where i need to buy the gms1

if that makes sense?

OntarioKev

It makes sense from giving business to the place that employs you, it's always good to contribute to the place that pays the bills, lol.

I just hope you can obtain your goals, because it just sucks to spend money, and then spend more money later on, wasting the first money that you spent.

When I got my SC I honestly thought that I could throw on an exhaust, GM stage 2 and be happy.

Well look where that got me, lol.

Just be sure you won't want a custom tune later, because if you do the GM stage kit seems like a waste.

Kevin

swazzees

the only chance i have is to find an ECU not from work or talk my service manager into warrantying your work.
which most would say sounds insane but you would be surprised the relationship he and I have.
but prob wouldnt happen.....

rukkee

iTrader: (3)

It would seem that way but we need the sensor's in the stage kit . So it's not as bad as buying stage 2 for an SS/SC and then dropping to a 2.8 , 60's and a tune ......only using the stage kit hub and belt ..... after paying for all that hehe.