Need Drawings!! Help
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Need Drawings!! Help
Ok i am doing a school project of the ecotec engine. Now i need drawings of our internals of the engine and dimensions, exploded isometrics, and specs. If someone can post some pics of the drawings.
anyone?
anyone?
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I can get some exploded views but not sure about specs
give me a few and I'll post
There's some specs below the pics. I'm not sure it that is what your needing.
Metric
English
Engine Type
Inline 4 Cylinder
Displacement
2.0 L 122 CID
RPO
LSJ
Liter (VIN)
P
Bore
85.992-86.008 mm
3.3855-3.3861 in
Compression Ratio
9.5:1
Balance Shaft
Bearing Clearance
0.030-0.063 mm
0.0012-0.0025 in
Bearing Diameter - Inside - Carrier
20.050-20.063 mm
0.7894-0.7899 in
Bearing Diameter - Outside - Carrier
41.975-41.995 mm
1.6526-1.6534 in
Bearing Journal Diameter
20.000-20.020 mm
0.7874-0.7882 in
Bushing Clearance
0.033-0.102 mm
0.0013-0.0040 in
Bushing Diameter - Inside
36.776-36.825 mm
1.4479-1.4498 in
Bushing Journal Diameter
36.723-36.743 mm
1.4458-1.4466 in
End Play
0.100-0.300 mm
0.0020-0.0118 in
Block
Balance Shaft Bearing Bore Diameter - Carrier
42.000-42.016 mm
1.6535-1.6542 in
Balance Shaft Bushing Bore Diameter
40.763-40.776 mm
1.6048-1.6054 in
Crankshaft Main Bearing Bore Diameter
64.068-64.082 mm
2.5224-2.5229 in
Cylinder Bore Diameter
85.992-86.008 mm
3.3855-3.3861 in
Cylinder Bore Out-of-Round - Maximum
0.010 mm
0.0004 in
Cylinder Bore Taper - Maximum
0.010 mm
0.0004 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Transverse
0.030 mm
0.0012 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Longitude
0.050 mm
0.002 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Overall
0.08 mm
0.0031 in
Camshaft
Camshaft End Play
0.040-0.144 mm
0.0016-0.0057 in
Camshaft Journal Diameter
26.935-26.960 mm
1.0604-1.0614 in
Camshaft Thrust Surface
21.000-21.052 mm
0.8268-0.8252 in
Connecting Rod
Connecting Rod Bearing Clearance
0.029-0.069 mm
0.0011-0.0027 in
Connecting Rod Bore Diameter - Bearing End
52.118-52.134 mm
2.0519-2.05252 in
Connecting Rod Bore Diameter - Pin End
20.007-20.021 mm
0.7877-0.7882 in
Connecting Rod Side Clearance
0.070-0.370 mm
0.0028-0.0146 in
Connecting Rod Straightness - Bend - Maximum
0.021 mm
0.0083 in
Connecting Rod Straightness - Twist - Maximum
0.04 mm
0.0157 in
Crankshaft
Connecting Rod Journal Diameter
49.000-49.014 mm
1.9291-1.9297 in
Crankshaft End Play
0.050-0.380 mm
0.0012-0.0150 in
Crankshaft Main Bearing Clearance
0.031-0.067 mm
0.0012-0.0026 in
Crankshaft Main Journal Diameter
55.994-56.008 mm
2.2045-2.2050 in
Cylinder Head
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Transverse
0.030 mm
0.0012 in
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Longitude
0.050 mm
0.002 in
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Overall
0.1 mm
0.004 in
Valve Guide Bore - Exhaust
6.000-6.012 mm
0.2362-0.2367 in
Valve Guide Bore - Intake
6.000-6.012 mm
0.2362-0.2367 in
Valve Lifter Bore Diameter - Stationary Lash Adjusters
12.013-12.037 mm
0.4730-0.4739 in
Lubrication System
Oil Pressure - Minimum - @1000 RPM
344.75-551.60 kPa
50-80 psi
Oil Capacity - with or without Filter
5.7L
6.0 quarts
Piston Rings
Piston Ring End Gap - First Compression Ring
0.20-0.40 mm
0.008-0.016 in
Piston Ring End Gap - Second Compression Ring
0.35-0.55 mm
0.014-0.022 in
Piston Ring End Gap - Oil Control Ring - Rails
0.25-0.76 mm
0.010-0.030 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - First Compression Ring
0.04-0.08 mm
0.0015-0.0031 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - Second Compression Ring
0.030-0.069 mm
0.0012-0.0027 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - Oil Control Ring
0.090-0.106 mm
0.0035-0.0042 in
Piston Ring Thickness - First Compression Ring
1.170-1.190 mm
0.0461-0.0469 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Second Compression Ring
1.471-1.490 mm
0.0579-0.0587 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Oil Control Ring - Rail - Maximum
0.43 mm
0.0169 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Oil Control Ring - Spacer
1.574-1.651 mm
0.0620-0.0650 in
Pistons and Pins
Piston - Piston Diameter - @14.5 mm up
85.967-85.982 mm
3.3845-3.3851 in
Piston - Piston Pin Bore Diameter
20.002-20.007 mm
0.07875-0.7877 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Top
1.23-1.25 mm
0.0484-0.0492 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Second
1.52-1.54 mm
0.0598-0.0606 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Oil Control
2.52-2.54 mm
0.0992-0.1000 in
Piston - Piston To Bore Clearance
0.010-0.041 mm
0.0004-0.0016 in
Pin - Piston Pin Clearance to Connecting Rod Bore
0.007-0.026 mm
0.0003-0.0010 in
Pin - Piston Pin Clearance to Piston Pin Bore
0.002-0.012 mm
0.0001-0.0005 in
Pin - Piston Pin Diameter
19.995-20.000 mm
0.7872-0.7874 in
Pin - Piston Pin End Play
0.19-1.16 mm
0.0075-0.0461 in
Valve System
Valves - Valve Face Runout - Maximum
0.04 mm
0.0016 in
Valves - Valve Seat Runout - Maximum
0.05 mm
0.0020 in
Valves - Valve Stem Diameter - Intake
5.955-5.970 mm
0.2344-0.2355 in
Valves - Valve Stem Diameter - Exhaust
5.935-5.950 mm
0.2337-0.2343 in
Valves - Valve Stem to Guide Clearance - Intake
0.030-0.057 mm
0.0012-0.0022 in
Valves - Valve Stem to Guide Clearance - Exhaust
0.050-0.077 mm
0.0020-0.0026 in
Valve Lifters - Valve Lifter Diameter - Stationary Lash Adjuster
11.986-12.000 mm
0.0005-0.0020 in
Valve Lifters - Valve Lifter-to-Bore Clearance - Stationary Lash Adjuster
0.013-0.051 mm
3.2210-3.2299 in
Valve Springs - Valve Spring Load - Closed - @32.5 mm
245.0-271.0 N. - Eng Spec.
Valve Springs - Valve Spring Load - Open - @23.0 mm
525.0-575.0 N. - Eng Spec.
give me a few and I'll post
There's some specs below the pics. I'm not sure it that is what your needing.
Metric
English
Engine Type
Inline 4 Cylinder
Displacement
2.0 L 122 CID
RPO
LSJ
Liter (VIN)
P
Bore
85.992-86.008 mm
3.3855-3.3861 in
Compression Ratio
9.5:1
Balance Shaft
Bearing Clearance
0.030-0.063 mm
0.0012-0.0025 in
Bearing Diameter - Inside - Carrier
20.050-20.063 mm
0.7894-0.7899 in
Bearing Diameter - Outside - Carrier
41.975-41.995 mm
1.6526-1.6534 in
Bearing Journal Diameter
20.000-20.020 mm
0.7874-0.7882 in
Bushing Clearance
0.033-0.102 mm
0.0013-0.0040 in
Bushing Diameter - Inside
36.776-36.825 mm
1.4479-1.4498 in
Bushing Journal Diameter
36.723-36.743 mm
1.4458-1.4466 in
End Play
0.100-0.300 mm
0.0020-0.0118 in
Block
Balance Shaft Bearing Bore Diameter - Carrier
42.000-42.016 mm
1.6535-1.6542 in
Balance Shaft Bushing Bore Diameter
40.763-40.776 mm
1.6048-1.6054 in
Crankshaft Main Bearing Bore Diameter
64.068-64.082 mm
2.5224-2.5229 in
Cylinder Bore Diameter
85.992-86.008 mm
3.3855-3.3861 in
Cylinder Bore Out-of-Round - Maximum
0.010 mm
0.0004 in
Cylinder Bore Taper - Maximum
0.010 mm
0.0004 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Transverse
0.030 mm
0.0012 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Longitude
0.050 mm
0.002 in
Cylinder Head Deck Surface Flatness - Overall
0.08 mm
0.0031 in
Camshaft
Camshaft End Play
0.040-0.144 mm
0.0016-0.0057 in
Camshaft Journal Diameter
26.935-26.960 mm
1.0604-1.0614 in
Camshaft Thrust Surface
21.000-21.052 mm
0.8268-0.8252 in
Connecting Rod
Connecting Rod Bearing Clearance
0.029-0.069 mm
0.0011-0.0027 in
Connecting Rod Bore Diameter - Bearing End
52.118-52.134 mm
2.0519-2.05252 in
Connecting Rod Bore Diameter - Pin End
20.007-20.021 mm
0.7877-0.7882 in
Connecting Rod Side Clearance
0.070-0.370 mm
0.0028-0.0146 in
Connecting Rod Straightness - Bend - Maximum
0.021 mm
0.0083 in
Connecting Rod Straightness - Twist - Maximum
0.04 mm
0.0157 in
Crankshaft
Connecting Rod Journal Diameter
49.000-49.014 mm
1.9291-1.9297 in
Crankshaft End Play
0.050-0.380 mm
0.0012-0.0150 in
Crankshaft Main Bearing Clearance
0.031-0.067 mm
0.0012-0.0026 in
Crankshaft Main Journal Diameter
55.994-56.008 mm
2.2045-2.2050 in
Cylinder Head
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Transverse
0.030 mm
0.0012 in
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Longitude
0.050 mm
0.002 in
Surface Flatness - Block Deck - Overall
0.1 mm
0.004 in
Valve Guide Bore - Exhaust
6.000-6.012 mm
0.2362-0.2367 in
Valve Guide Bore - Intake
6.000-6.012 mm
0.2362-0.2367 in
Valve Lifter Bore Diameter - Stationary Lash Adjusters
12.013-12.037 mm
0.4730-0.4739 in
Lubrication System
Oil Pressure - Minimum - @1000 RPM
344.75-551.60 kPa
50-80 psi
Oil Capacity - with or without Filter
5.7L
6.0 quarts
Piston Rings
Piston Ring End Gap - First Compression Ring
0.20-0.40 mm
0.008-0.016 in
Piston Ring End Gap - Second Compression Ring
0.35-0.55 mm
0.014-0.022 in
Piston Ring End Gap - Oil Control Ring - Rails
0.25-0.76 mm
0.010-0.030 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - First Compression Ring
0.04-0.08 mm
0.0015-0.0031 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - Second Compression Ring
0.030-0.069 mm
0.0012-0.0027 in
Piston Ring to Groove Clearance - Oil Control Ring
0.090-0.106 mm
0.0035-0.0042 in
Piston Ring Thickness - First Compression Ring
1.170-1.190 mm
0.0461-0.0469 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Second Compression Ring
1.471-1.490 mm
0.0579-0.0587 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Oil Control Ring - Rail - Maximum
0.43 mm
0.0169 in
Piston Ring Thickness - Oil Control Ring - Spacer
1.574-1.651 mm
0.0620-0.0650 in
Pistons and Pins
Piston - Piston Diameter - @14.5 mm up
85.967-85.982 mm
3.3845-3.3851 in
Piston - Piston Pin Bore Diameter
20.002-20.007 mm
0.07875-0.7877 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Top
1.23-1.25 mm
0.0484-0.0492 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Second
1.52-1.54 mm
0.0598-0.0606 in
Piston - Piston Ring Grove Width - Oil Control
2.52-2.54 mm
0.0992-0.1000 in
Piston - Piston To Bore Clearance
0.010-0.041 mm
0.0004-0.0016 in
Pin - Piston Pin Clearance to Connecting Rod Bore
0.007-0.026 mm
0.0003-0.0010 in
Pin - Piston Pin Clearance to Piston Pin Bore
0.002-0.012 mm
0.0001-0.0005 in
Pin - Piston Pin Diameter
19.995-20.000 mm
0.7872-0.7874 in
Pin - Piston Pin End Play
0.19-1.16 mm
0.0075-0.0461 in
Valve System
Valves - Valve Face Runout - Maximum
0.04 mm
0.0016 in
Valves - Valve Seat Runout - Maximum
0.05 mm
0.0020 in
Valves - Valve Stem Diameter - Intake
5.955-5.970 mm
0.2344-0.2355 in
Valves - Valve Stem Diameter - Exhaust
5.935-5.950 mm
0.2337-0.2343 in
Valves - Valve Stem to Guide Clearance - Intake
0.030-0.057 mm
0.0012-0.0022 in
Valves - Valve Stem to Guide Clearance - Exhaust
0.050-0.077 mm
0.0020-0.0026 in
Valve Lifters - Valve Lifter Diameter - Stationary Lash Adjuster
11.986-12.000 mm
0.0005-0.0020 in
Valve Lifters - Valve Lifter-to-Bore Clearance - Stationary Lash Adjuster
0.013-0.051 mm
3.2210-3.2299 in
Valve Springs - Valve Spring Load - Closed - @32.5 mm
245.0-271.0 N. - Eng Spec.
Valve Springs - Valve Spring Load - Open - @23.0 mm
525.0-575.0 N. - Eng Spec.
Last edited by fr33k; Mar 14, 2007 at 10:12 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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well yeah i will be cadding this, and i will also be putting it into Autodesk Viz, so that i can also make it move, as in having the pistons moving and the crankshaft turning, so on and so forth, also those numbers on the drawings do it have a key of some sort along with it?
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If you're doing anything like the Deutz Engine screensaver I will be VERY impressed!!
I've done some CAD and some Solid Edge stuff, but probly no where as advanced as you.
Good luck to you, it looks like PLENTY of work!
I've done some CAD and some Solid Edge stuff, but probly no where as advanced as you.
Good luck to you, it looks like PLENTY of work!
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yeah hopfully it comes out good, and member im only a high school senior doing this as a project for a major senior exit project and with having only 2 years of CADD experience so it may not be that detailed but it should work, but my teacher told me its going to take a very long time to make this work.
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haha yeah i know, but my teacher said, it would be better just to do the pistons, crankshaft etc. but not the whole thing
thats more like it.. usually gm has a bunch of tech's working on this stuff, and they get a whole car designed in 3 months, but thats with a ton of people..
If I were you I would CAD up what the teacher said and show geometric tolerancing really well, like +- dimensions.. Pay attention to detail. thats what they look for.. haha
later
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thats more like it.. usually gm has a bunch of tech's working on this stuff, and they get a whole car designed in 3 months, but thats with a ton of people..
If I were you I would CAD up what the teacher said and show geometric tolerancing really well, like +- dimensions.. Pay attention to detail. thats what they look for.. haha
later
If I were you I would CAD up what the teacher said and show geometric tolerancing really well, like +- dimensions.. Pay attention to detail. thats what they look for.. haha
later
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haha i drew an evo before but the exterior, this is something totally new to me and my teacher, he is glad i picked this, no one has done it before and its a tech school and the whole tech school is like giving me alot of props and are giving me a special award or something if i can pull this off
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but its not bad
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Sorry for the pics below but my catalog will not print just the text lol. Here's the images of all the parts per pic above. Use the image number to match numbers with pic.
The top right of the pic is the image number and the top left of the description is also the image number
The top right of the pic is the image number and the top left of the description is also the image number
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haha thats awsome!!!!! thanks i will show my teacher this tomorrow, and im starting this project when i come back to school, tomorrow is the last day before spring break, so come april 8th imma start this thing