hey guys. i read the post on common questions about how transforming an ls to an ss is like forbidden. but i currently own a 2005 cobalt ls 2 door and was looking to turn it into an ss. ive tried looking for a complete list of what would need to be done but i cant do it. if you dont have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself. thank you

 

Entire body kit, Fe5 suspension, new engine(or work done to existing), exhaust, tires, wheels. Honestly by the time its all said and done, it would probably be cheaper to sell yours and buy a used SS.

 

the only reason i dont want the true ss is because of the insurance costs. i heard through my insurance company its quadruple what i pay now

 

I understand, Im just saying its going to be a ton of work and may never quite be as good. But all more power to you! good luck with your project.

 

thank you!

 

If you are swaping engines you will need the wiring harness too. Probably easiest to buy a wrecked ss to get all the parts.

You might want to male sure if it gets wrecked/stolen that insurance will cover your mods. They probably just fix back to stock and you are out money on everything you did and didn't tell them about. Don't forget the lowered resale too.

 

would the manual tranny from a 2.2 fit the 2.0?

 

u can just get a used m62 kit for ur 2.2 motor.

 

can or cant?

 

this is incorrect. I only pay 95 bucks a month for my vic. red ss coupe. That's the worst color to have. Then again, I'm almost 30, never got a ticket on my record, and I've never been in a wreck. If you're paying 23 bucks a month for your 2.2, then you're my hero.



Now, if you really still want to move forward with this project, then it's going to be a little more than just swapping stuff. For example, the lug pattern and suspension between the 2.2 and 2.0 vehicles are different, so you would have to consider swapping that over. The wiring, bcm, and pcm are different as well. And unless you really want to deal with re-wiring a car, it's a project which many have taken on, and have all said "I will never do it again". If you're an automatic, there's never going to be a way for you to marry a 2.0 engine block to that transmission. There also may be potential problems with ac lines and coolant lines needing to be re-routed as well, and then you still have to prep the bay like any regular ss guy (tranny mounts, tensioner fix, etc.).

 

I meant can

 

sorry its forbidden

 

^don't **** on this kid's dream to turn his econo-box into......well......the same econo-box

 

No. Different splines in the clutch and the hubs

 

so do you think itd be easier just to turbocharge the 2.2? and then change the body kid and brakes?

 

I had a 2008 Cobalt Sport and went into a 2008 Cobalt SS. Insurance cost was the same

 

how?

 

im starting the same project on my XFE its a lot of time and money.
youll need 2.0 motor
the ss trans
ss axles splined diff than the 2.2
ss hub bearings
ss rims
ss brakes
ss harness
ss ecu
i had a list on my comp for a while till my comp crashed and i lost everything but heres a chuck of it

 

If it is insurance that your are worried about, I bought my car (ss/sc) in 2006 brand new and have paid about $90 on it for full coverage since than. If not and you just want a project car to work on than i wish you the best of luck.

 

If you worried about insurance cost. Forget every boosted car. I mean seriously??? Get an Ion Redline. It's considered a 4door for insurance and it's the same as a Cobalt SS/SC. damn noobs

 

you better have lots of moneyz

 

My point exactly. If he's worried about insurance being $20 more a month. He definatly can't afford all the work/time involved in making a NA into boosted.

 

Just supercharge it and throw on a new body kit.

 

i may have been mistaken about the having to swap the trans. ive read that it will bolt up but ill beleave it when i see it. but would be awesome if it does

 

As stated it would be cheaper and easier to just buy an ss. If you are just looking for more performance and not trying to make an ss clone then you could go turbo or supercharged and build the motor, etc. To actually make your car into something that is identical to an ss you will need motor, trans, harness, ECM, body kit, wheels, axles, brakes, hubs, suspension, and completely redo the interior. Basically to transform it into the ss you will be rebuilding the entire car. Or you can make a sleeper out of what you've got. Whichever you decide just do what make you happy. And as for it being forbidden, that's only if you put on the ss body kit and try to pass it off as a true ss, which is frowned upon (like masturbating on an airplane )