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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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one of those SS vs. things

VS. a 02-03 WRX...the balt should walk on it right? looking for more input feedback on this. sorry it sounds soo Noob ish lol
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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.....haters lol 14 views! and nada
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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I would not say walk him. You should beat a stock one. I would even say a WRX with exhaust and intake. I beat my friends WRX and he has the JDM engine and tranny swap. Was close though.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
I would not say walk him. You should beat a stock one. I would even say a WRX with exhaust and intake. I beat my friends WRX and he has the JDM engine and tranny swap. Was close though.
was this from a dig? or roll?
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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stock to stock you can take him. its a drivers game. my redline is lighter. ive walked every balt ive raced. and i have a close friend with a wrx. and on a stock tune with cai and exhaust and springs i took him. he barely got me off the line due to a really good alunch on my part and i whooped him. so he did intercooler and DP and full exhaust. and i walked him again with a stage 2. once again driver game. and i got perfect launches and shifts.. been working on em..
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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i've beaten a friends wrx with intake and exhaust. had springs and other stuff but performance that was it. and yes it was from a 40 roll
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Alright so my buddy gots a new 06 WRX(stock) we raced a few times from a dig 20,40, and then from 60... from below a dig he won by about 4 cars, from 60 i was able to win by about 3 cars due to him being below boost heh... but yeah
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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06 has a little more hp
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
I would not say walk him. You should beat a stock one. I would even say a WRX with exhaust and intake. I beat my friends WRX and he has the JDM engine and tranny swap. Was close though.

A WRX with an intake will actually run slower then one without. The intake is not good for the WRX until somewhere around 300hp.

If the WRX is a stick this should be a drivers race. Both cars are mid 14 second cars with decent drivers.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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why would a car not benefit from an intake? ive never heard of that...
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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lsj dont really benefit from an intake. makes the SC scream like a school girl. and thats bout it.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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While some cars don't benefit as much as others from an intake, it should always be somewhat beneficial whether immediate gains are seen or not. Most of the time intake is the first thing people do to a car. Mod a cobalt to about 270hp first before any intake is put on and you will most likely notice more of a gain from the intake simply because its providing more air than the stock airbox would. The intake just needs some supporting mods to show that its more effective. It's the same as putting on exhaust as a first mod vs putting the cat-back on after you have intake, headers, downpipe, hi-flow cat. It will obviously show a slightly better power gain because the engine can breathe so much better and everything flows much more freely.

My CAI only did 1hp on my 3000GT as it was the first mod (sounds mean though ), however some people report up to about 6hp. It depends alot on supporting mods as well.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
why would a car not benefit from an intake? ive never heard of that...

It causes the WRX to run lean so a tune is a must if you are going to run one on a WRX. Most people say it isn't even necessary until 300hp because the stocker is good until then.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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well my best friend is buying a 2004 wrx pretty soon and will be modding it. i thought that getting an intake and exhaust and front mount intercooler would eb good first mods all at once, if not what should be focus on first?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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For a WRX, get an aftermarket downpipe and/or up-pipe and cat-back and try getting some nice tires to complement the power of an AWD launch (or if you're into anything like autox where traction is a must). Those car's greatly benefit from those mods. My friend has one with a Greddy Type-S BOV (which you may consider for your friend), Downpipe, Up-pipe, and GeForce Sport KDW's and its a pretty quick little car. The exhaust if very restrictive on them so anything to free up flow will help.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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intakes hurt wrx's performance, i thought that was known by people...anyways,
Originally Posted by HickOverLOrd
Alright so my buddy gots a new 06 WRX(stock) we raced a few times from a dig 20,40, and then from 60... from below a dig he won by about 4 cars, from 60 i was able to win by about 3 cars due to him being below boost heh... but yeah
you really need to learn how to launch your car, thats embarassing.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HickOverLOrd
Alright so my buddy gots a new 06 WRX(stock) we raced a few times from a dig 20,40, and then from 60... from below a dig he won by about 4 cars, from 60 i was able to win by about 3 cars due to him being below boost heh... but yeah
how far did yall race? 4 cars is kinda bad even from a dig. ive heard of SS's being outlaunced by WRX's and then catching back up for the win in the 1/4.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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if he is stock, you can take him out from a roll and if you can launch really good then you can get him from a dig too. if he has mods, a dig will be different. what are your mods? stock?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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From a dig, the WRX will be a tough fight if the driver knows what hes doing. AWD is SUCH an advantage. Your launch will make or break you from a dig, from a roll, you'll stand much more of a chance, and from what all the others say I gues you SHOULD beat them from a roll.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
well my best friend is buying a 2004 wrx pretty soon and will be modding it. i thought that getting an intake and exhaust and front mount intercooler would eb good first mods all at once, if not what should be focus on first?

Uppipe is a must! If you don't and you start doing other mods that may make your engine run hotter you can melt the catalyst in the cat and it could break off and go into the turbo and bye bye turbo. Second step is a downpipe, third is some thing to tune with like utec (sp?) or accesstuner. Stay away from intakes and BOVs because they do not help the WRX at all and may cause problems. As I said the intake makes it run lean and the BOV will cause idling problems. Both are total wastes until around 300hp. If someone wants the BOV sound they can do the intake silencer delete which is about a 10 minute job and any idiot can do it. That will give you all the noise making you need.

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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Yeah, uppipe is a must as ^^^ said from what I hear on those cars. But actually, my friend has the Greddy Type-S BOV on his WRX and has no problems. You can switch that one between open atmostphere and recirculating BOV's. From my understanding as long as it is a recirc BOV you don't have to worry about the issues that come with the open atmosphere ones (such as running extremely rich during a shift or pedal release). The Recirculating ones don't give you the sound that open atmosphere does but it doesnt **** with your MAS so you should be ok.

And also why would it mess with idle? The BOV isnt doing anything at idle speed (correct me if Im wrong, im asking, not being a smartass).
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Yeah, uppipe is a must as ^^^ said from what I hear on those cars. But actually, my friend has the Greddy Type-S BOV on his WRX and has no problems. You can switch that one between open atmostphere and recirculating BOV's. From my understanding as long as it is a recirc BOV you don't have to worry about the issues that come with the open atmosphere ones (such as running extremely rich during a shift or pedal release). The Recirculating ones don't give you the sound that open atmosphere does but it doesnt **** with your MAS so you should be ok.

And also why would it mess with idle? The BOV isnt doing anything at idle speed (correct me if Im wrong, im asking, not being a smartass).

A buddy of mine had a BOV on his WRX and it idled like crap. He took it off and switched back to stock and had no problems. That's why I say that. I'm not sure why but I think it may have had something to do with it not closing right. I don't know for sure though.

You are right about recirculating though. If you have one that recirculates it shouldn't cause many problems.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking. As long if your friend wants a BOV he will be better off going with a recirculating bov.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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well i guess a turbo back exhaust would eb the best 1st mod. would a front mount intercooler be ok in the beginning in preparation for the higher hp? then of course soem tuning. but there is so much tuning for them i wouldnt knwo where to start.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
well i guess a turbo back exhaust would eb the best 1st mod. would a front mount intercooler be ok in the beginning in preparation for the higher hp? then of course soem tuning. but there is so much tuning for them i wouldnt knwo where to start.
Depends on how much hp are you looking for. If your looking to push more than 400hp than front mount is the way to go. Obviously converting to a front mount is pricey, you could just upgrade the top mount for probably $500-600 less. Plus your adding 4-5 feet of tubing...versus like 6-10inches....so that equals more pressure drop. So on a stock wrx you would lose power converting to front mount right away. WRX's are great cars, but they require alot of knowledge...not that no car doesnt...but the wrx has some quirks.
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