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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Psi-Fi's plans for the SS!

We are anxiously awaiting the delivery of our Cobalt SS sometime this week or next. A little about us, we currently have a complete line of parts from intakes to complete turbo kits and engine management for the dodge SRT-4, we have also successfully developed,tuned and designed a twincharger kit(turbo+supercharger) for the mini cooper S... Our success with the twincharger really opened our eyes to this technology and we have an excellent grasp of the concept and know the ins and outs(lots of em) on getting it work correctly and retain day to day driveability. to give you an idea of power increases our cooper kit brings power up from 150's hp stock to 250+whp. the trap speeds with these mods in place come up from low 90's to 107mph in the 1/4 mile. as soon as we take delivery we will begin designing parts, tuning engine management and developing a twincharger system... Not to step on any toes here we'd like the site moderator to contact us for vendor/advertiser information.

Currently we are building SRT-4s for sport FWD and street tire classes and we want to build a twincharged cobalt for sport FWD as well...


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Mark Psi-Fi Motorsports

BTW heres some pics of the cooper S kit.


Heres a Dyno of twincharged Cooper at 20 psi compared to a JCW prepared cooper S(ported head-more blower boost,exhust,tuning) since this dyno plot we have added in aquamist water/methanol injection and bumped boost to 24psi we fully expect 300+whp on the current state of tune.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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We are anxiously awaiting the delivery of our Cobalt SS sometime this week or next. A little about us, we currently have a complete line of parts from intakes to complete turbo kits and engine management for the dodge SRT-4, we have also successfully developed,tuned and designed a twincharger kit(turbo+supercharger) for the mini cooper S... Our success with the twincharger really opened our eyes to this technology and we have an excellent grasp of the concept and know the ins and outs(lots of em) on getting it work correctly and retain day to day driveability. to give you an idea of power increases our cooper kit brings power up from 150's hp stock to 250+whp. the trap speeds with these mods in place come up from low 90's to 107mph in the 1/4 mile. as soon as we take delivery we will begin designing parts, tuning engine management and developing a twincharger system... Not to step on any toes here we'd like the site moderator to contact us for vendor/advertiser information.

Currently we are building SRT-4s for sport FWD and street tire classes and we want to build a twincharged cobalt for sport FWD as well...


Thanks in advance,

Mark Psi-Fi Motorsports

BTW heres some pics of the cooper S kit.


Heres a Dyno of twincharged Cooper at 20 psi compared to a JCW prepared cooper S(ported head-more blower boost,exhust,tuning)
Welcome to the site! It's great to hear your future plans for the SS SC. When do you figure your kit for the Cobalt will be complete, and any estimates on whp gains and price? Also, any plans to make it CARB legal for us poor CA souls?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Welcome to the site! It's great to hear your future plans for the SS SC. When do you figure your kit for the Cobalt will be complete, and any estimates on whp gains and price? Also, any plans to make it CARB legal for us poor CA souls?
As soon as we take delivery of our car we will begin development, since we have done this before the the time involved should not take very long at all. I already have a turbo spec'd out for the project and we will begin working on the engine management portion immediateley as this is the backbone of the system. as far as powergains are concerned I'll say the differences should be similar to what we accomplished on the Cooper.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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As soon as we take delivery of our car we will begin development, since we have done this before the the time involved should not take very long at all. I already have a turbo spec'd out for the project and we will begin working on the engine management portion immediateley as this is the backbone of the system. as far as powergains are concerned I'll say the differences should be similar to what we accomplished on the Cooper.
Very nice...and what of the CARB certification? I know most companies don't bother with this, considering there's 49 other states to market to. But laws and ordinances are getting stricter every day in CA counties and in the state as a whole. It's difficult to invest serious cash in any modifications when there's the very real risk/chance of being fined, or having your car seized all together.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverCSS
Welcome to the site! It's great to hear your future plans for the SS SC. When do you figure your kit for the Cobalt will be complete, and any estimates on whp gains and price? Also, any plans to make it CARB legal for us poor CA souls?
can you please email me advertiser/vendor information?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Very nice...and what of the CARB certification? I know most companies don't bother with this, considering there's 49 other states to market to. But laws and ordinances are getting stricter every day in CA counties and in the state as a whole. It's difficult to invest serious cash in any modifications when there's the very real risk/chance of being fined, or having your car seized all together.
Its a very expensive proposition to get Carb Cert I can look into it but... with any modification level as extensive as this that has the factory fuel injection system modified is kinda hard to fly in Cali.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Its a very expensive proposition to get Carb Cert I can look into it but... with any modification level as extensive as this that has the factory fuel injection system modified is kinda hard to fly in Cali.
Very true. How extensive is it, then? You mentioned engine management, which implies a stand alone of some sort. Do you typically create your own? Or use a product, and tweak it? There's an incredible piece of hardware known as 'Mega Squirt' (www.megasquirt.info). Basically, standalone for 200 or less. Of course, if you add all the goodies and options, it raises the price..but compared to the usual 1-2k for engine management, you can't beat that price.

And if you alter the fuel rails, and use an SDS..I assume things like the ignition and drivetrain would also have to be addressed..not to mention the fuel pump, etc.

Considering you've built products for other cars, I'm sure you've covered all this. But any information at this point about serious mods gets me all worked up and wanting my Cobalt even more.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Very true. How extensive is it, then? You mentioned engine management, which implies a stand alone of some sort. Do you typically create your own? Or use a product, and tweak it? There's an incredible piece of hardware known as 'Mega Squirt' (www.megasquirt.info). Basically, standalone for 200 or less. Of course, if you add all the goodies and options, it raises the price..but compared to the usual 1-2k for engine management, you can't beat that price.

And if you alter the fuel rails, and use an SDS..I assume things like the ignition and drivetrain would also have to be addressed..not to mention the fuel pump, etc.

Considering you've built products for other cars, I'm sure you've covered all this. But any information at this point about serious mods gets me all worked up and wanting my Cobalt even more.
we have our own piggyback we will custom calibrate to the Cobalt, once we get the car we'll do all kinds of diagnostics and systems tests to see what needs to be done to bring the project to fruition.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mark@psi-fi
we have our own piggyback we will custom calibrate to the Cobalt, once we get the car we'll do all kinds of diagnostics and systems tests to see what needs to be done to bring the project to fruition.
Beautiful. Thanks for the information and being patient with me. I can't wait to see how your product develops. Good luck with it, and let us know if you need anything from this growing Cobalt community! I'm sure I speak for all of us here when I say: We want to support out vendors.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Yea im liking all the prospects for all these mods, its good that many companies are taking interest in these engines, guess the only problem is all that plastic on top
Also I hate the California emissions, I just moved out here, and just got my car out here from NY. I havent really taken the time the get my car registered out here yet (still registered in NY till July next year. Should I still get a smog check?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Welcome to cobaltss.net. Glad to see nice plans for the Cobalt. Cant wait to hear more. I heard good things about you guys. Please feel free to contact me if you need anything.

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Yea im liking all the prospects for all these mods, its good that many companies are taking interest in these engines, guess the only problem is all that plastic on top
Also I hate the California emissions, I just moved out here, and just got my car out here from NY. I havent really taken the time the get my car registered out here yet (still registered in NY till July next year. Should I still get a smog check?
Ok..here's where CA law gets really dumb. Ready? Ok, first..you have to have your car smogged to get it registered..but to get it registered, you have to not only have it smogged, but insured. But to get it insured, it must be smogged and registered...so figure that out. When I shipped my Probe over from GA, I had to pay 300 for registration..and jump through loops with the DMV and my insurance to get it all worked out.

Either way, you'll have no choice but to smog it. First when it's registered, then every two years after. Enjoy!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Ok..here's where CA law gets really dumb. Ready? Ok, first..you have to have your car smogged to get it registered..but to get it registered, you have to not only have it smogged, but insured. But to get it insured, it must be smogged and registered...so figure that out. When I shipped my Probe over from GA, I had to pay 300 for registration..and jump through loops with the DMV and my insurance to get it all worked out.

Either way, you'll have no choice but to smog it. First when it's registered, then every two years after. Enjoy!
Wow sounds like fun, cant wait to get myself to the DMV
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where are you guys located in jersey?
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Beautiful. Thanks for the information and being patient with me. I can't wait to see how your product develops. Good luck with it, and let us know if you need anything from this growing Cobalt community! I'm sure I speak for all of us here when I say: We want to support out vendors.
I second that opinion. I couldn't be happier that the Cobalt is already attracting a lot of aftermarket interest before it has even hit ground, I think this will be a very modifiable car as GM has already developed this engine in their FWD drag racing program. I just hope I will be able to afford everything I want to do to this car, and I hope everyone ships to Canada.
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Thumbs up $ ? $ ? $ ?

hey man i like the idea but i wanna know the price.... u already made a cooper one how much does that one cost? im not trying to spend over 3000 for the kit, and will it come with detailed instructions, all direct bolt on etc? i like the idea but i herd that these kits are outrageous in price

welcome to site

and a web page would be nice do ya have one!

o one more thing i live in delaware can i get it installed by you are you guys certifies mechanics (do u have a shop) ? ll8r bro
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One question....well heres one and a few others lol, what does a twincharger do to the rev limiter? Does it raise it like a typical SC does or lower it? And also upgrading the twincharger, what would mods do? i.e. exhaust, intake, pulley
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where are you guys located in jersey?
we are about 10 minutes from atco dragway.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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One question....well heres one and a few others lol, what does a twincharger do to the rev limiter? Does it raise it like a typical SC does or lower it? And also upgrading the twincharger, what would mods do? i.e. exhaust, intake, pulley
Does nothing to the rev limiter. the kit we will put together will include everything needed to safely run the power and still retain factory like driveability.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cvenom2122
hey man i like the idea but i wanna know the price.... u already made a cooper one how much does that one cost? im not trying to spend over 3000 for the kit, and will it come with detailed instructions, all direct bolt on etc? i like the idea but i herd that these kits are outrageous in price

welcome to site

and a web page would be nice do ya have one!

o one more thing i live in delaware can i get it installed by you are you guys certifies mechanics (do u have a shop) ? ll8r bro

we do installs here, cost cant be quoted yet as we dont know what is going to be needed for the entire project. our website is

www.psifimotorsports.com
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mark@psi-fi
we do installs here, cost cant be quoted yet as we dont know what is going to be needed for the entire project. our website is

www.psifimotorsports.com
Looks like she's down for the moment.
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Originally Posted by cvenom2122
hey man i like the idea but i wanna know the price.... u already made a cooper one how much does that one cost? im not trying to spend over 3000 for the kit, and will it come with detailed instructions, all direct bolt on etc? i like the idea but i herd that these kits are outrageous in price

welcome to site

and a web page would be nice do ya have one!

o one more thing i live in delaware can i get it installed by you are you guys certifies mechanics (do u have a shop) ? ll8r bro
Most kits in the 3-4k range are rather comprehensive. They don't include drivetrain elements, nor things like ignition and your fuel pump...but they typically include all the piping, intercooler, wastegate, BOV, turbo, all the necessary brackets, instructions..and depending on the company, fuel rail modifications and/or a stand alone setup/retuned ECU.

So, if you do end up paying 3-4k for this kit, it'll be well worth it. Especially given their history on www.**************.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Yes they do have a good rep on there (way back when I was on SRT forums )
As for pricing it depends on the car and company really, there is no set price for kits, they charge that much mainly because the market is expensive. The parts themselves dont cost that much, and say I wanted to build a custom system, or have a shop do it for me, it might be a little better priced. Also im going to see if HKS or any of the california based companies will fabricate a custom turbo. A freind of mine a few years back went to them and they complied with a small ball bearing for him, he said he paid around 3 grand including an intercooler and setup. As for now although im not too sure, but ill definetly ask around.
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Yes they do have a good rep on there (way back when I was on SRT forums )
As for pricing it depends on the car and company really, there is no set price for kits, they charge that much mainly because the market is expensive. The parts themselves dont cost that much, and say I wanted to build a custom system, or have a shop do it for me, it might be a little better priced. Also im going to see if HKS or any of the california based companies will fabricate a custom turbo. A freind of mine a few years back went to them and they complied with a small ball bearing for him, he said he paid around 3 grand including an intercooler and setup. As for now although im not too sure, but ill definetly ask around.
You could easily piece a kit together for yourself with all the goodies for 3k or under. I mean everything. The only issue there is, unless you're a pro at tuning..it's really hit or miss. Now, compare that to a company like PSI-FI who takes the engine, and builds upon it in their shop. Once the kit is completed, you're left with a fully tuned setup specifically for that engine and all its particulars. That in itself is worth paying money for, unless you'd rather spend months yourself tuning. My thoughts anyway. With a new car, I wouldn't mess around..my Probe, however, I will be tweaking on my own. I'd rather bust a 2k car than a 21k car.
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