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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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remote start on a SS/SC?

so has anyone put the factory remote start in a cobalt that didn't have it? i know that you would have to change the BCM because of the programing. but after that does anyone know if it would work? I would like a remote start and having a factory one that you don't have to cut up your wireing harrnes to put in would be sweet. thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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in most places, that's illegal because you have to park in gear.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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since you have to put the clutch in to start the car how would u bypass that???
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
in most places, that's illegal because you have to park in gear.
have to park in gear? how so? is the e-brake not enough?

likely what you'll have is that you wont' find a shop that'll install it for fear that you WILL park in gear, then tell it to start and VROOM! I've heard of all sorts of accidents due to this.

The other possibility is that you'll be signing a waiver if they do install it.

The way to go about the installation correctly though is to have a "switch" you flip after you've parked the car that basically says "i did not park in gear, so remote start is ok!" then the remote start only works if that switch is "on".

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since you have to put the clutch in to start the car how would u bypass that???
there are actuators to do this.


it's definitely possible to install it, just isn't usually done for solely safety concerns
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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since you have to put the clutch in to start the car how would u bypass that???
That's just a switch, the clicking noise you hear when you push in our clutches. It isn't hard to bypass, you just gotta be sure you park with it out of gear, ALWAYS.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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thanks for the info. i never park in gear but i guess aftermarket would be safter to do. i just hate cutting up a brand new cars wire harness.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Remote starts on Manuals require the car to be in Nuetral and the E-brake on
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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thanks for the info. i never park in gear but i guess aftermarket would be safter to do. i just hate cutting up a brand new cars wire harness.

you're supposed to park the car in gear. the reason that you have to push the clutch in to start it is so that you don't make any mistakes. NEVER just use the parking brake.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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I put remote start and alarm on my SS. Its not hard a all but i do it for a living so i dont think its hard. My shop i work at will not do it no matter what. The clutch is just a switch to allow the car to start. so if you look at the clutch as a switch is very esay to bypass. I have my car set up to not start if the Ebarke isnt up. This way if the car is in gear the ebrake will make it stall out and only move a little a few feet or so.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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I know somebody that had remote start. Parked the car in gear and it started and he comes out side the car had pushed another vehicle out the way rand up on a curb, and ripped off the side skirts. Plus if you read in our manual says you shouldn't.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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As long as you have the ebake setup like I have it doesnt move that much at all. I tested it out maybe three feet. As far as wiring it it doesnt hurt anything if you do it right. How does the car konw if it was start with or with out the key? I have had mine in for over an year and half and no problems.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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clutch?

yes cadet is right, bypassing the cluth is very simple. in fact the easiest part of a remote start install on these vehicles. i HAVE A FEW WORDS FOR EVERYONE, DO NOT TRY THESE YOURSELF ON OUR CARS. Our vehicles platform is complex. this should be left to a professional that is very knowledgeable about can and lan systems.

PS Cadet where is your shop? I am a directed dealer, just curious where your out of?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Circuit City been installing for over 3 years. And yes to everyone Blackcopper is right take it to a professional and DO NOT use any other company then DEI they are really the best on the market. Use them in all my cars and never had problem!

PS Blackcopper are you a DEI dealer or a shop that installs DEI?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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If you want remote start get an automatic. they do it this way for a reason.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Two words come to mind when I think of this


BAD IDEA
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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im sure it wouldn't be a bad idea if it was you that had to go out in -30 to -40C weather to start your cold ass car. and no you shouldn't have to park in gear. thats what the e-brake is for,
A guys asks a question and there are some that offer good opinions on the subject. then there seems to be more and more people out there that just want to say"**** thats stupid, i wouldn't do that."
why is it such a bad idea, cuz your not smat enough to leave your car in N when you park. i NEVER leave it in gear never have and never will. so if you have nothing good to add to the thred then why add anything? all anyone has to say is" look this is the down side of this idea" thats fine but when you come on and say" go buy a automatic if ya want remote start" WHY? i want a SS?SC not a normal SS. keep that **** to your self. end rant. iv had a realy bad day so...
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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only time i park my car in gear is when it's not on the flat surface. in that case i park it in a gear that will keep it from rolling if e-brake gives out. i would also install in my car a switch that i must flip when the car is off in order for power to be given to the remote start system, that way i have to do an extra step when i get out of the car in order for me to use my remote start. ideally i'd put this somewhere where i'd remember to shut it off once i'm in the car (so i have to turn it on when i get out and couldn't just leave it on all the time)

better yet, some sort of contacts that would detect when the shifter is not at rest position and open the circuit to the remote start system in this case.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blackcopper
yes cadet is right, bypassing the cluth is very simple. in fact the easiest part of a remote start install on these vehicles. i HAVE A FEW WORDS FOR EVERYONE, DO NOT TRY THESE YOURSELF ON OUR CARS. Our vehicles platform is complex. this should be left to a professional that is very knowledgeable about can and lan systems.

PS Cadet where is your shop? I am a directed dealer, just curious where your out of?
so do you own a cobalt or are u jsut a dealer???

and in iowa city huh... thats not 2 far away
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Im just safe about it...its your car so do what you want just be safe about
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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I had thought of getting this done, but would be afraid of leaving the car in gear.

The way you could rig it would not only use a switch on the e-brake, but also rig up a switch on the shifter that only works when the car is out of gear.

You could put two "rods" with a bypass switch on each one that would be tripped when the car was in any gear at all. Sorta like this

Front of car
___<- Rod
(0) <----- Shifter
Another Rod

Then set it up so if the shifter is pushing on either rod, the switch opens the circuit to the remote start.

Just an idea I'd do for my own safety.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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you might want to read the thread " horrible day for the balt " and see just how safe the e-brake is
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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They make a kit (can't remember brand sorry) That you can install a remote start on a manual trans car. It's pretty simple you park the car pull up ebrake, hit the remote start button take key out of ignition, engine will still be running, get out of car close door hit button engine stops. Baisically you are proving to the car that it is safe to idle, if the door is opened the system will not allow the car to start since it could have been put in gear. My dad has this on his truck and it works well just takes a few extra seconds when you want to arm the system.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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I have been thinking about doing this for a long time but never got around to doing it. The main reason is that I would like to keep my stock key pad, is that possible. I agree with pooch, if your are to stupid or can't remember not to keep your car out of gear than don't do it, and shut the **** up. I as well have never left my car in gear and never will.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pooch
thanks for the info. i never park in gear but i guess aftermarket would be safter to do. i just hate cutting up a brand new cars wire harness.
Originally Posted by UnstableSS
you might want to read the thread " horrible day for the balt " and see just how safe the e-brake is
Look at this...
imo trusting the e-brake alone is a BAD idea
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