Im seriously considering a cobalt ss/sc. i just want to know that with all these mods that you guys are doing to your ss/sc's....are you guys puttin out the same amount of power that the srt's are putting out?....Like with the gm stage 2's and exhaust and intakes and all that? cuz my friend has a srt-4 with intake, exhaust, mopar stage 1 and a few minor things and hes beating gt stangs, 04 gtos and a couple of other cars....if i get a ss/sc i wnat to be able to compete with the srt-4....thanks in advance

 

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well I'll tell you this much all I have is an aem intake and my homie has a 05 srt4 with stage 1 3inch down pipe 3 inch exhaust wastegate mod maf mod big intercooler intake and some other mods and I still jump on him I lose in like third but my honed maniforld and exhaust and stage 2 are coming in when it gets here and installed I'lllet you know how I'm doing

 

 

boys and girls, let's keep this one clean

Mature discussions only! In the past, every single cobalt vs neon thread has ended up locked. No personal attacks! If you must yell at someone, Please IM them or email them

 

I just wnat to know if i get a ss.sc and modify it, if ill be able to compete wiht srt's no harm intended

 

(Neon....sorry guys) SRT-4 pr Caliber SRT-4?

The "older" SRT-4 is history at this point. You may find some dealers with one kicking around. This car is faster than an SS/SC stock, but doesn't handle as well from what I have gathered (magazine reviews). I think the SRT-4 with 2.4L will have more power potential than the 2.0L in the Cobalt. "There is no replacement for displacement!" That said, the GM stage kits are warrantied, where as I heard someone on hear say that the stage kits for the SRT-4 have "warranty issues". I would imagine that if you have enough cash, you certainly could build a 'Balt that would eat SRT-4s for lunch. But you could say the same for the SRT-4 which has more aftermarket support at this point.

As far as the '07 SRT-4, it will be much faster than a stock SS/SC. It is going to be heavy (about 3200 lbs), but with 300 HP it owns the sport compact segment. If you can get past it's styling, it may be a not bad ride. It rides very high, so I would imagine the Cobalt will still go throught the corners faster. I would also suggest that the Caliber torque steers like there is no tomorrow! Plus, if the sport-compact scene does not jump aboard on the Caliber SRT-4, there won't be much in the way of aftermarket parts. The truck-like style and ride height, not to mention hefty weight compared to its competition may make this a tough sell for the tuner crowd (or so says Car & Driver).

You may want to wait and see if the Pontiac G5 gets an SS/SC equivalent. The styling may be more to your liking than the SS/SC, so that may sway your decision. Plus it will be new on the market.

If I am wrong on anything, or if anyone has something to add, please feel free to correct me.

 

the cars are comparable, with some mods you should be able to keep up with ur friend.

As for power the SRT4 i think will always be putting down more power but for some reason the SS S/C is always right there. Besides stage 3 with nos and that's a whole diff league of car.

 

i havent had a cobalt right beside me yet...but they are cool cars

 

Everyone runs into different *****, i'll let ya know next time I'm in Texas.

 

The srt4's are not to be underestimated those thing are fast little cars and seem to be fairly cheap to produce nice gains with. Their aftermarket is bigger than ours as well. The srts also has us beat in the torque department by a longshot. The cobalt ss can beat a srt4 but very few have. We atleast need an intake and exhaust to hang with a stock one in most circumstance. The ss imo deffinantly has the srt beat in the handling and looks department as well as the fact that we dont get boost leaks like most srt's do.

 

do you post in the srtforums? whats you user name?

 

I owned a 05 Saturn Redline (Cobalt ss/sc) and I now own an SRT4, there is no comparison in mods and power. Go drive an SRT4 and have someone here meet you for a race if the salesman will let you on the test drive. you will blow the doors off of him and then go back and sign the paperwork. JMHO

but the cobalt SS looks better and from my redline experience, it handles better too. But dont let the bashful and shy fool ya, a stock SRT4 puts 5 or 6 cars on a stock SS.

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Maybe your redline had issues. To the poster, both cars are very comparible, and the power between the two is close enough to be a driver's race, don't let the troll's fool you.
They do have a little better straightline performance than us stock, but not 5 or 6 cars.
The SRT-4's don't handle worth a crap compared to the SS/SC, and I'm not big on 4 doors .

 

Stage 1 srt pulling on an 04 GTO . I could believe a stage 3. Anyways, back to the topic. Heres the way I look at it, and what made me decide to get a cobalt ss/sc. If you want to stand out, and be recoginized, get a cobalt ss/sc. The srt 4s are faster than the Cobalts stock for stock, but I see a srt 4 every 2 seconds here in orlando. I don't like being like everyone else. I don't care what anyone says, the ss/sc has the srt 4 beat when it comes to the interior, and exterior styling. Also, with the right amount of time and money, you could make the SS faster.

 

The SRT4 guys in my area used to says **** like that .

But like I said before ppl run into different ****. Theres no sense aruguing over the cars because anything can happen. For potential and aftermarket the SRT has the SS beat hands down. If ppl are looking to runs with supras and stg3 srt4's with nos......not going to happen. It didn't take me long to realize that my SS wasnt going to be street monster I had first though it would be.

 

Ive owned both and with equal drivers, by 100 an SRT4 WILL beat an SS by 5 or 6 cars. Its not even a race IMO. Like everyone says, an SS will beat an SRT4, if the SRT4 driver is trying to find 3rd gear. 1st, even. 2nd SRT4 pulls half a car to a car. 3rd SRT4 pulls 4 cars. 4th I usually forget that Im racing.

The facts:

Cobalt looks better and drives better

Cobalt Handles better

SRT4 is 4dr if you like that

SRT4's are everywhere

SRT4 doesnt have a slight advantage in straightline performance, it smokes the SS/SC

SRT4 has an awesome aftermarket.

I mean hell the SRT4 stock dynos 15+ HP and like 40-50 more torque than an SS.

Ive said enough. With all being said. Get a Cobalt SS/SC.

 

Thanks for all the different insights and all that. Prob one of the most helpful statements was definitly that the ss/sc wont be a street monster...im not gonna lie i was hopeing to be able to compete wiht some popular cars, because i will be going to college in miami soon. But i wnated to keep the price down. Since i have a cts now im not very interested in another 4 door car. The ss/sc by far smokes the looks of the srt out of the water. but i was really hoping to be able to compete on the street wiht them. Basically all i would end up doing to the ss is intake, exhaust, stage 2 from gm, upgraded clutch, maybe a new cam if i thought it was worth it. I'll do more research on the car and make a decision. Thanks for all the help though!

 

I like seeing debates like this & I appreceate your post as you have owned both cars & I see you know the facts or to me it seems.

I have always been a GM Fan boy & still remain and I'd like to believe I own the fastest car out there but lets be real I wanted a car that had some sports look, Driveline & ***** and gas milage as I bought a Cobalt SS/SC to replace my gass guzling Tahoe SC I had but I didn't want to spend $30,000 for it and I feel I got what I wanted.

I respect your post & it makes me relize there are alot of different makes of cars out there & mine isn't the fastest as I'm a competitive driver & some days I tend to think I'm the fastest ha ha ha.

 

Last fact changed. Not only does the SRT dyno much higher, but according to Motortrend it weighs like 30 lbs less than the SS/SC

Curb Weight - Cobalt SS/SC - 2959
Curb Weight - Neon SRT-4 - 2921

One odd fact also, in that comparison they rated the cobalt and SRT 14.4 each in the quarter with the neon trapping 1 mile an hour faster at 100, but if you read the performance statistics.

SRT does 0-100 in 13.8
Cobalt does 0-100 in 15.4

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html

If anyone has some insight as to why that is, I would love to hear it, cause there is something fishy with that.

 

Those stats look a lil fishy Example Cobalt Powertrain warrenty = 5 yr/ 60, 000 Right? not 3 yr/ 36,000. but I like them stats! the balt nudges the srt in a lot of classes but not top end performance.

Anyway, I would think the SRT is traping a higher speed because it accelerates faster at the top end then at the bottom (Way Bottom). According to these stats.

I personally chose my SS/SC because They are rare, Have nice interior (Girls like nice more than street monster ), 18 in wheels, I like chevy!, Im not a fan of 4 doors but it would be nice to fool around in the back seat if you catch my drift, I wanted to be different.

Things I dont like about my car. No respect from the majority of the tuner/Ricer world, hard as hell to launch, weak clutch, small back seat, less aftermarket than SRT.

All in all, I like SRT's and respect them but I LOVE my balt.

 

Fast06SS weighed his on a scale, and was just over 2800lbs. That moter trend is full of crap, because all of the numbers for BOTH cars are way off. But I respect your responses, they've been good with no childish stuff.

 

0-100 15.4 but 0-99.4 in 14.4 ................ya that makes sense

so to correct
SS 0-100 in 14.4
SRT 0-100 in 13.8

heres your 5-6 cars
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ADF5AA117D.htm

how many cars?
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6DF6BD28BA.htm

how many cars?
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...E2D636E70E.htm

how many cars?
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...732F5B89F4.htm

 

hey spicy pants, 0-100 at 15.4 doesnt makes sense when quarter is 14.4 at 99, but hey 0-100 at 13.8 when quarter is 14.4 at 100 makes a lot more sense I thnk they f'ed up

SRT4- 1/4 13.8
SS/SC 1/4 14.4

That sounds right

BTW thanks for the research, were you the driver in any of those videos, probably not, have you ever owned an SRT, bah who knows.

All that matters is that your spicy pants. now go on and say something with attitude, I dare ya.

 

The srt4s are faster but I have raced 2 and it was never 5-6 cars it was 3 at the most(these were me stack against srt stock).