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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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those with a dashhawk

what do you guys use for "frontal area" in horsepower setup to get accurate results?

thanks!
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Old May 2, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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eh noone runs one? how come there are a few cobalt owners on the dashhawk forum them?
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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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I can't remember the exact number I used, but I got it from searching for it on google.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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According to several Dashhawk Forum articles, the device can not be used on an SS/SC:

The SS/SC motor is using the older computer and the other 2 models use the new system.

The SC cars do not have the newer E67 PCM (yet) and does NOT have CAN ...
Same goes for Ion Redlines too ...
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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there are non supercharged cobalts, you know?

btw lil_kano, I could only find the drag coefficient online.. got no luck with the frontal area, that's why I was asking.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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what's a dash hawk?
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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I have a dashhawk, but I never use the HP "guesstimator"

The DashHawk is made by MSD and works on 2.2 & 2.4, and supposedly will support the LNF
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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The Hp estimator is pretty close if you set it up right. when I see my cobalt I'll check to see what number i put.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis
there are non supercharged cobalts, you know?
Yeah, I know.

Sorry ...

Originally Posted by REIGN SS
The DashHawk is made by MSD and works on 2.2 & 2.4, and supposedly will support the LNF
I searched the DashHawk Forums, and that's a negatory on the LNF.

For 2008 though, ALL cars are supposed to be CAN compliant.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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nramlow2006 has one he loves it. if they supported the ss/sc i would be all over it. it does 10x the interceptor does.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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yeah it's great and fits well on our cars in front of the instrument panel!

thanks for looking lil kano!
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Old May 4, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Has anyone done dragstrip testing of the DashHawk?

I mean running the DashHawk at the track and comparing them against the dragstrip's professional timing lights.

Also, when the Caliber SRT-4 came out, I remember the testers saying that the CSRT-4 had a performance timer built into the car's computer.

Problem is though, they said the car's computer does not cycle information fast enough to provide accurate performance numbers (they were laughing at what the CSRT-4's performance read out was showing).

Now if the DashHawk also relies on the car's computer, wouldn't the same problem exist there as well?
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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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didn't go to the track but when my car was stock the 0-60mph and 1/4 miles were really close to what hey were supposed to be (a bit slower but that's because of ME!) :P
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis
didn't go to the track but when my car was stock the 0-60mph and 1/4 miles were really close to what hey were supposed to be (a bit slower but that's because of ME!) :P
Well, I went and checked the CSRT Forums.

Some people claim that their on board PCm's performance timer is inaccurate, but others claim it's within a 1/10" and 1mph of what they got while racing on the dragstrip.

So maybe there IS some validity to the DashHawk afterall ...
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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I have the Escort G-Tech II I have done dragstrip runs and got it dialed in so it's accurate.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevy Cobalt 08
what's a dash hawk?
Think of an Aeroforce Interceptor..but not in a gauge format...
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Old May 5, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowLT
I have the Escort G-Tech II I have done dragstrip runs and got it dialed in so it's accurate.
Car and Driver did a test a while back on performance meters, and for the most part, they were accurate IF THE CAR WAS TESTED ON LEVEL GROUND.

If not, they were way off.

(btw, the DashHawk is different from the other testing devices in that it connects to the vehicle's on board diagnostic port, whereas the other meters are gyroscope driven)

If I had a flat stretch of quiet road where I lived, I'd get one.

But I don't.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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industrial areas FTW!

and yeah the dashhawk can't be wrong unless you: 1. aren't on a flat road or 2. you spin the tires
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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i've never heard of this device before, but would it work for my 2008 2.4? (only goes up to 2006 on the site)
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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i am more interesting in understanding all the features on it. does it tell A/F ratio? what temps does it show? can you "tune" anything with it?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Yes it will work on your 2008 cause all 2008+ cars are CAN compliant.

you can get it to tell you pretty much all the information the car's computer can tell.

A/F yes, you can get intake temp, oil temp, outside temp, coolant temp, there are a lot more options i.e. exhaust temps but I don't know if the car tells you that, i know you can get manifold temps..

you can't tune anything with it, but you can use it to trigger the fans, to do a crank relearn and such things.


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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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NO tuning. Just monitoring. You can add a Wideband adapter i belive. If you go to dashhawk.com it'll show you everything about it. they even have a small forum with discussions and beta updates.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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did you get time to look at the value you're using? thanks
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Old May 6, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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so the DashHawk plus something like the AEM F/IC you would tune your car pretty basic but you would be able to fix the rich A/F set up from the factory right?
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