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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 04:36 AM
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Torn between ss/sc and ss/tc

Ive decided to get a cobalt ss 100%. Now which one raises more questions. If you guys could help me out with the pros and cons id appreciate it. Pros for the ss/sc is that its a couple grand cheaper then the tc. So i would have more money for mods right away. However if i were to get the tc i would be in less of a rush to mod but i probably wouldn't have any money for even tints if i decided to go the more expensive route and get the tc. I have done my research to the best of my ability but number only mean so much. Has anyone made the change from a sc to a tc ? BTW I'm coming from a vw rabbit 0-60 in about 3 minutes and a 1/4 at about 69 miles an hour haha so anything is an upgrade but i really can't make up my mind. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 04:41 AM
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i have a sc. after quite a bit of upgrades im still not at the power of the tc stock lol. if i had to do it over.. tc 100%
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 04:50 AM
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i have a sc. after quite a bit of upgrades im still not at the power of the tc stock lol. if i had to do it over.. tc 100%
thats what I'm worried about. I don't want to spend my time and effort finding a ss/sc. then modding it and 6 months to a year down the line and wishing i would of got the tc. but than again, id have to wait another 5-6 months to save up more for the tc. and also ill probably only have the balt for a year maybe two tops because I'm getting a well payed job so I'm going to end up probably getting the camaro ss or a mustang gt ( love rwd )
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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thats what I'm worried about. I don't want to spend my time and effort finding a ss/sc. then modding it and 6 months to a year down the line and wishing i would of got the tc. but than again, id have to wait another 5-6 months to save up more for the tc. and also ill probably only have the balt for a year maybe two tops because I'm getting a well payed job so I'm going to end up probably getting the camaro ss or a mustang gt ( love rwd )
then just get the SC and replace the car in a year or two. SC with GMS2 is about the same as TC stock power wise
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Get the SC, then start saving for your RWD car as a summer car. When I read the title I thought instantly, if you have the cash go turbo, but the circumstances are different. I am kind of in the same situation. I wanted to step up from my cavy, wanted something FWD to get me through some harsh NE weather, and had just enough for a SC, but not the TC. I'm hoping to get enough years out of my SC that I can start to look at my dream restoration project of a 65 mustang fastback.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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TC with a tune will be enough power for most people, s/c with a tune and parts is only gonna be fast as a stock tc, but will have more potential in the end with a turbo swap and stuff. How much do you wanna spend is the question.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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The Fiance had a 05 ss/sc headers/exhaust/smaller pulley/intake/stage2 Made 239hp-219tq. We just bought a 09 ss/tc intake/tune 289hp-336tq.
The tc also comes with better rims/brembos/better seats/ Launch control and ffs. I did love the scream of the sc though. Those are my opinions. Good luck!
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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some dude on here just traded his 2010 camaro SS for a cobalt SS. Keep that in mind
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Meh i'd take a ss/tc over a new camaro ss. they look like ****, are heavy, only thing they have better is rwd. 4th gen is much better.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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I would suggest going with the turbo, and a tune. It's a very impressive car.

I have been driving Camaro Z28's for about 15 years, have never been impressed by any FWD car I have driven, except the 2010 Cobalt SS I just bought. My 14 year old Z28 with LS1 has been a fantastic car, but it's getting a little tired, so I started doing research a few months ago.

The new Mustang has a glass, made in China tranny. They use the same junk in the 6 all the way up to the Boss! You have to go to a Shelby to get a proper tranny.

1998 - 2002 Camaro. Great motor, great tranny, but the gas mileage is not so hot. Handling is limited by the solid rear end.

Newer Camaro, even better motor, great tranny, IRS, but it's HEAVY. Gas mileage is not great either. If they could put that car on diet, it would be perfect.

If I didn't live in Canada, I would have gone with a used C5. Price is reasonable, handling is great, and you have a true sports car. Can't drive one in the snow.

The Cobalt SS turbo seems to have it all. Good power, great handling, braking, seats, stereo, reasonably priced, and good gas mileage. That's a tough combo to find. Time will tell though.

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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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I am another one of those guys that has an SC and I will tell you to get a TC. It might be a little more but the extra power and goodies make it all worth it. To do it all over again I too would buy a TC.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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I have had both a S/C and a T/C. T/C just feels like an over all better car! Would not go back to an S/C.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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ive had both. After 1 year i traded my SC for a TC and never looked back, SO much more potential.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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I buy cars for a living, and I get to test drive most of the cars that I buy. That being said, I have owned 2 SS/SC and I have driven many SS/TC Cobalts, some of which were tuned. If you could get them for the same money, or even close, you should get the SS/TC. It does have better top end power, better suspension, and more tuning potential (if you're into spending thousands while wrecking the resale value of your car). That being said, there is more like a 3 or 4 thousand dollar difference between a low mileage SS/SC and and a SS/TC with similar miles. I think that's pretty significant. Also, no matter how much you tune your SS/TC, it will never have the low end torque of the SS/SC that's so fun to use in everyday driving. As a daily commute car, it really is just as much, IF NOT MORE fun to drive a SS/SC. So bottom line, if you have the money, go for the SS/TC. If you want to save a buck and still get a great car, go for the SS/SC.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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If you don't think you can afford the TC while still having some extra money don't get it. You don't want to get stuck in a tight financial situation because of your car, you gotta have extra money in case you need it. While you may want to get the TC sometimes you gotta take the more responsible route.

If you're only gonna have it for a short time anyways don't blow all that extra money, save the extra for the car that you really want.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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ive had both. After 1 year i traded my SC for a TC and never looked back, SO much more potential.
I have a hard time agreeing with this when zzp has a 898whp lsj and a tc has yet to get near that number.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Can't go wrong either either way dude... I love my tc... Its track ready out the box....well Road course ready.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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I bought my ss/sc new in 2007. It's currently turbocharged making about 400whp on a fully stock motor. Just throwing that out there.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMagic
I have a hard time agreeing with this when zzp has a 898whp lsj and a tc has yet to get near that number.
lol yea lsj is the better motor in the long run, most lnf guys think cause they put a tune on that it's zomg fastest car on the planet leading to such comments.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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If you don't think you can afford the TC while still having some extra money don't get it. You don't want to get stuck in a tight financial situation because of your car, you gotta have extra money in case you need it. While you may want to get the TC sometimes you gotta take the more responsible route.

If you're only gonna have it for a short time anyways don't blow all that extra money, save the extra for the car that you really want.
This is why I went S/C (also been a S/C > turbo guy forever ignorance is bliss). I could afford to get a TC but it would have left my bank w/ nothing in it and my payments would have been about another 80$ a month. I did the math, I could do it but I didn't want to live paycheck to paycheck I like some money to fall back onto. I got the S/C I'm going to a 2.9 a tune and full bolt ons and calling it done. I love the car, I've owned 3 mustangs 1 I procharged. (shoulda gone KB). The cobalt just overall has a better feel to it. I say go with the S/C man and enjoy it. pay the car off and if you really want to make power turbo it w/ ZZP's turbo kit. Even on a conservative tune you'll still push out 350hp!
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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TC hands down is better in basically every single possible way.

Though if 900HP is the goal, and thats about the only SC argument. Probably shouldn't waste that cash on a cobalt any ways.. *shrug* Let the shops do that kinda insane work and effort.

The TC for any regular normal person has much more potential as a free tune from your buddy with a lappy during coffee break gets you $1000's and $1000's of dollars of bolt ons, time and effort spent on getting a lsj to that same level. This is the word potential used on correct context. Saying the LNF cant get 1000whp therefore has less potential is really unreal to me.

when I think of potential with a car I think, how can I get the most out of it, with the least amount of money

people here think of it as

how can I get the most out of it, dropping $15-$20,000 and have a shop build the car from scratch over 2 months and end up with a sinister fwd drag car that runs 9's with a wheelie bar with an extra .1 bored out displacement, on e85 (cant even get in canada) and so cammed out your better off bringing the car to the track on a trailer

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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mysweetSS
I have had both a S/C and a T/C. T/C just feels like an over all better car! Would not go back to an S/C.
One more question, you wouldn't go back to the ss/sc but if you had to (some one put a gun to your head) would you pick anything over the ss/sc for the same price
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^ mad he has a slow tc
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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I buy cars for a living, and I get to test drive most of the cars that I buy. That being said, I have owned 2 SS/SC and I have driven many SS/TC Cobalts, some of which were tuned. If you could get them for the same money, or even close, you should get the SS/TC. It does have better top end power, better suspension, and more tuning potential (if you're into spending thousands while wrecking the resale value of your car). That being said, there is more like a 3 or 4 thousand dollar difference between a low mileage SS/SC and and a SS/TC with similar miles. I think that's pretty significant. Also, no matter how much you tune your SS/TC, it will never have the low end torque of the SS/SC that's so fun to use in everyday driving. As a daily commute car, it really is just as much, IF NOT MORE fun to drive a SS/SC. So bottom line, if you have the money, go for the SS/TC. If you want to save a buck and still get a great car, go for the SS/SC.
Agreed if they were a little closer in price id go for the tc. But the sc is still a great car and for my situation I'm starting to think is the better option
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bk1322
One more question, you wouldn't go back to the ss/sc but if you had to (some one put a gun to your head) would you pick anything over the ss/sc for the same price
depends what you want/how much you want to spend/if you wanna do work on it...
if i were to look for something in the price range other than an lsj/lnf personally, i could get a clean em1 or teg boost it or get a dsm and mod it and still have money left over and wipe the floor with a cobalt.
so it comes down to your reasoning for buying really.
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