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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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What cars have a gen 3 block??

as the title implies what cars have a gen 3 block i want to hunt for a junk yard special so i can build my lsj turbo setup

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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as the title implies what cars have a gen 3 block i want to hunt for a junk yard special so i build my lsj turbo setup
not topic related, buttt what part of the island are you on ?

let me know where your going to look for one. i could use a good junk yard
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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GM Ecotec engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

True Gen III engine won't be in a junkyard, and will be difficult to put in the car. What ZZP calls Gen III is the LDK/LHU and here in the states was in the 2010+ Saab 9-3/9-5 and Buick Regals. Good Luck.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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^^^ good post
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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Also, if you go the LDK route, I'm not sure what needs to be done to the block to make it fit. Someone on here said they put a "Gen III" block in their LSJ, you might want to chat with him.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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I'm from suffolk county oakdale bohemia area and someone passed along info for one in a yard for 650 but I'm currently in pa for schooling so why I'm here always going through the yards hunting got a saab mani for my turbo build for 20 bucks love u pull its so what exactly is the block zzpsells for the lsj then cause thats the one I'm looking for what cars are it in
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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The info is in the thread.

ZZP isnt going to tell you where they source their blocks from.
Figure it out if you wanna do the leg work yourself.

Buddy just got a gen3 thats built to a 2.1 stroker for his LSJ.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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I believe they 100% need modification for lsj fitment. I wish I could remember what gets modded something on the flywheel side of things I think.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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ZZPerformance - Gen 3 LSJ Short Block #ZZ-LSJSB

this is the block I'm referring to
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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BlackSSstg2 u referring to anthony ? and source their blocks from is this like some super secret whats cars have the block like wtf lol
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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i know the modifications that have to be done i just want to know what cars have the block that is all
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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See wikipedia link above. Look for LDK and LHU. Done.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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ok thanks
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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ZZP modifies the block somehow and sells it for $500 more that the straight LDK shortblock.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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Also, look for evidence of lost-foam casting. You don't want that. ZZP says theirs are "sand casted" which, without getting too technical is their way of saying not-foam-casted. I did see someone's post on another forum where they had an LDK but you could tell from the pictures that it was a lost-foam casting. Be aware.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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what would tell me its a lost foam casting
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Although, apparently LSJ's were lost foam and haven't heard of porosity being an issue, but I still wouldn't trust it.

It looks like styrofoam

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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LNF-LDK-LHU Compare

See how the surface looks like bubbles? Lost foam.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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yea i see and that on were the oil filter goes in right
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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ZZP modifies the block somehow and sells it for $500 more that the straight LDK shortblock.
They pull the motor back apart and modify the reluctor wheel so it works with the lsj. I run a Gen 3 short block from ZZP. But have the DI pistons in it still.

In my opinion bang for the buck is just buy a new short block from ZZP and have them throw in some forged Pistons and rods while the motor is apart for the reluctor wheel mod. When I got mine they said they would it in at no extra cost. Probably a trade off of labor for the stock rods and Pistons.

The nice thing about the block from ZZP too is no modifying at all was needed to bolt anything up. They suppy you with a new oil cooler to work with the motor.

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:51 AM
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yea i see and that on were the oil filter goes in right
Yep. It's generally a bad idea to put little canyons all over the surface of the part, not to mention the potential porosity issues.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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OK Gen 3 2.4s are in 2010 thru 2013 Buicks, GMC Terrain and Equanox. Chevy Captiva sport and 2013 Malibus. 2.0 turbo is in 2011 thru 2013 buicks. After that it gen 4
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Do you know Anthony ? he lives out in Bohemia ... Advise is his forum name.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Yep. It's generally a bad idea to put little canyons all over the surface of the part, not to mention the potential porosity issues.
There are literally **** tons of cars that use lost foam casting and have zero issues ever.
In fact, Saturn s-series motors were all that. Factory built for 120hp. Dudes put 460 and the blocks were never the issue. Not once.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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And as I said i'm not aware of an LSJ having an issue, but also heard they are lost foam. If you design for it, then fine. Apparently mine wasn't so I'm avoiding it. It's still generally a bad idea to put stress risers all over it.
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