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hilty003 10-22-2008 11:19 AM

is this 2.5" piping? i mightve missed it somewhere anyway....im thinking maybe 375 to 400 would be ok if we can manage to have this to include the t-clamps and shipping, i mean it is supposed to be gb pricing. i dont mind waiting longer to have it powdercoated red. possibly interested in the intercooler combo mentioned above too.

TrevMo 10-22-2008 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by TrevMo (Post 3015356)
$300 picked up at your place in Yorkville...

Basically, I'm not planning to do a lot of modding, but realize that the charge piping is a weak point of the design...I just want to get rid of the ugly plastic and get something more reliable...

Alright...maybe $300 is a bit low...but you definitely need to beat Synapse's GB price of $400...even that price scared away a lot of buyers....they barely got to 10 people...

You put this thing at $325 or $350 plus shipping and people will be all over it...

JPizzle 10-22-2008 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Omega_5 (Post 3015386)
.... that's both threads... :lol:

Again... no real peak gain... simply a supporting mod...
It simply reduces spool time and response by putting less 'give' in the system. Think of conventional brake lines vs SS braided lines. Less expansion in the line, therefore quicker response.

Lol! Yea, I wasn't expecting 30whp, & 50trq. Haha. But thanks for clearing that up for me!

hilty003 10-22-2008 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by TrevMo (Post 3015466)
Alright...maybe $300 is a bit low...but you definitely need to beat Synapse's GB price of $400...even that price scared away a lot of buyers....they barely got to 10 people...

You put this thing at $325 or $350 plus shipping and people will be all over it...

yea i agree i saw their product retails for $500 and i thought their gb was $400 but i wasnt sure.

red2001ss 10-22-2008 01:07 PM

Black in color would be hotness. I have no opinion on price at this time.

Kage 10-22-2008 01:22 PM

To keep the trend going with my car (only true mod is Hahn 3" Cat Back, and he won me over with that product.. I LOVE IT!) I would be willing to go for $400 or under for a set matching Victory Red and t-bolt clamps. Or would take a good look at a combo pack with the intercooler if you did one.

1WhiteSSTC 10-22-2008 04:10 PM

Just to confirm, this charge piping without a tune won't hurt anything right? I'm just a little concerned as with others adding custom intakes and have CEL codes drop in a week later.

Omega_5 10-22-2008 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC (Post 3016280)
Just to confirm, this charge piping without a tune won't hurt anything right? I'm just a little concerned as with others adding custom intakes and have CEL codes drop in a week later.

Pipe diameter and shape shouldn't affect the MAP2 sensor... so no, you shouldn't need a tune.

TrevMo 10-22-2008 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC (Post 3016280)
Just to confirm, this charge piping without a tune won't hurt anything right? I'm just a little concerned as with others adding custom intakes and have CEL codes drop in a week later.

It is my understanding that if you got this charge piping, you would just be replacing ugly, weak plastic with nice, strong metal tubing...that is what I'm hoping anyway...

40rty 10-22-2008 04:34 PM

Here is a question, what is the size of this compared to Synapse's intercooler kit? They have pic's up and that thing is just huge. THanks

JPizzle 10-22-2008 04:45 PM

BTW, when will you be offering your BOV upgrade???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

HunterKiller89 10-22-2008 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Omega_5 (Post 3015377)
Why would you want larger than stock? Increasing the diameter of the charge piping without a need to (an effin big turbo), will only result in a slower response time.

for a stock car, you wouldnt, but lets face it....there are 350whp blown cobalts...that means with due time there will be 500whp turboed balts, and i just want to know if the people going for turbo swaps have the available option of larger piping.

Turbo'dSS 10-22-2008 07:44 PM

i think $300-$375 including shipping is an awsome price! and id LOVE Gloss Black. thatd be hott!

Hahn RaceCraft 10-22-2008 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ssballin (Post 3015381)
real interested in getting rid of the stock piping too...what kind of performance gain will you get from this kit.

Frankly, at stock power levels, the gain is small...several HP.

The stock piping, while rather ugly, is actually well up to the task of supporting the stock power level. Power gains realized from a piping upgrade like this will increase as you continue to upgrade the car, since the more airflow you try to put through it, the more restrictive the stock piping becomes.


Originally Posted by hilty003 (Post 3015417)
is this 2.5" piping? i mightve missed it somewhere anyway....im thinking maybe 375 to 400 would be ok if we can manage to have this to include the t-clamps and shipping, i mean it is supposed to be gb pricing. i dont mind waiting longer to have it powdercoated red. possibly interested in the intercooler combo mentioned above too.

Yes, 2.5". Ideal for 300-600 HP. Optimally sized, not oversized.


Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC (Post 3016280)
Just to confirm, this charge piping without a tune won't hurt anything right? I'm just a little concerned as with others adding custom intakes and have CEL codes drop in a week later.

No sir. This won't affect airflow reporting at all, unlike intakes that house the MAF and can affect its airflow characteristics. The altered airflow signature is what throws the codes.


Originally Posted by 40rty (Post 3016363)
Here is a question, what is the size of this compared to Synapse's intercooler kit? They have pic's up and that thing is just huge. THanks

I'd like to address intercooler questions in our other threads, just for clarity :), and keep this one on the Piping Kit. Thanks :cssNET:


https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/hahn-racecraft-124/group-buy-ss-tc-intercoolers-139263/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lnf-performance-tech-153/group-buy-ss-tc-intercoolers-139277/

hungryhip-ccp 10-22-2008 08:55 PM

i have the clamps pictured above and they hold my 22psi all day... t-bolts are nice but you have to remember they are quite expensive!

Hahn RaceCraft 10-22-2008 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by JPizzle (Post 3016398)
BTW, when will you be offering your BOV upgrade???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

Later this year. It will incorporate our Billet BOV like we use on the Solstice and Sky kits. It will be compatible with this piping kit.


Originally Posted by HunterKiller89 (Post 3016459)
for a stock car, you wouldnt, but lets face it....there are 350whp blown cobalts...that means with due time there will be 500whp turboed balts, and i just want to know if the people going for turbo swaps have the available option of larger piping.

For comparison, this piping kit can support up to 600 HP easily.

SUKXOST 10-22-2008 09:05 PM

ditto
 

Originally Posted by Black08SSTC (Post 3014528)
shipping included for the $375 though


sounds perfect $375 shipping...would be nice w/ tbolt clamps!

SRodSS007 10-22-2008 09:18 PM

hey im a lil late on this one. what is this charge piping kit? does it add HP? um hear more turbo sound? im a total noob sorry guys but im interested in this. and a possible intake

SSBlackWidowSS 10-22-2008 10:03 PM

350-375 sounds good needs to be red chrome. Red chrome looks so sick

hilty003 10-22-2008 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by SSBlackWidowSS (Post 3017439)
350-375 sounds good needs to be red chrome. Red chrome looks so sick

haha that would be sick.

04redline0124 10-22-2008 10:11 PM

soo wut if i bought ur pipes when i getr my tc. How difficult will it be to put a tial on???

and yea 350 -375 shipped sounds great

SRodSS007 10-22-2008 10:12 PM

i love what bill did with the I/C ion sport tint red. id live that on the charge piping!!! we gotta get some prices for the combo and group buys!!

hilty003 10-22-2008 10:31 PM

so maybe 375 shipped with t-clamps with 15 ppl? i guess we'd need to know what can be done with colors....maybe 3 to 5 weeks? im personally thinkin about the combo now.

maybe 650 to 675 for a combo of the above with the i/c with the hahn logo on it. same # of ppl and time frame?

SUKXOST 10-22-2008 10:53 PM

I like the $650 for it all too...but NO logo. I don't want to advertise what I have to EVERYONE... just people that need or deserve to know. I have no problem telling people what I have and pushing a product for a company if I'm happy with it but to visually display on the exterior on my car and tell everyone to include the po-po that I'm pushin aftermarket HP mods...I don't like it.

SRodSS007 10-22-2008 10:57 PM

i agree!!! we should make a pole. and majority wins. im in aggreeance 375 shipped. and 675 shipped for the combo with 15 or more peopl. this is an awesome deal that many people will jump on.

375 for the charge piping
or 675 for the combo.
its affordable. and will probably get more business for it in my opinion. yer more likely to make more money on somethin that costs less than more. if that makes sense..


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