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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Good information. I prefer an electrical gauge over a mechanical gauge just because I don't want the oil coming into the passenger compartment in case of a leak.

Where you positioned the sending unit (in the cylinder head) you will read lower oil pressure than what is in the block. There is a restrictor orifice that reduces the oil pressure to the head. I originally installed my sending unit there too but it drove me crazy because the service manual states the oil pressure minimum is 50 PSI @ 1000RPM. I thought I had an oil problem until I found out about the restriction. I installed a remote sending unit using the Autometer adapter in the original factory sending unit position and a brass tube kit in order to read block pressure. I positioned my original sending unit in the cylinder head -- since it is just a "on-off" switch it is working there without a problem.

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I prefer an electrical gauge for that reason alone! I brought a full sweep electrical gauge because they are better that the short sweep ones(more accurate)

I had read about the restriction in the head, but I didn't want to move the stock sending unit in case I wanted to return the car back to stock. That's also why I didn't use power from the radio. I'm not to concerned with the pressure being lower because the restriction in the head because my main need for the gauge was for the ablity to check oil pressure drop or loss. After driving it for a few days, I found out the numbers in which my car operates and if they vary to much I know I have a problem.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jojot001
I had read about the restriction in the head , but I didn't want to move the stock sending unit in case I wanted to return the car back to stock. That's also why I didn't use power from the radio. I'm not to concerned with the pressure being lower because the restriction in the head because my main need for the gauge was for the ablity to check oil pressure drop or loss. After driving it for a few days, I found out the numbers in which my car operates and if they vary to much I know I have a problem.
Once I found out about the orifice I thought about leaving it alone too since I learned what the normal pressure was -- and that works fine too. I just wanted to know that the oil pressure in the block was correct -- since at that time no one knew what the head pressure should be to know what was "normal". If anyone else uses the cylinder head location now, they will now know what to expect.

Good how-to!

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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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My gauge uses it to remember which color I had my gauge set to last. It has 7 colors plus two coloring changing presets. The continuous power is only hooked up to a 3 amp fuse though so it isn't a huge deal.
oh, okay. i was just curious. for the future, if that's all it is, there is a constant power in the radio harness.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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wht the hell, how do i get tht damn oil galley plug off, iv been trying for 2 hrs... those are tighter thn... well... ill let the guys tht have done this tell u... u guys couldnt have gotten them off with a simple allen key. how did u do it?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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wht the hell, how do i get tht damn oil galley plug off, iv been trying for 2 hrs... those are tighter thn... well... ill let the guys tht have done this tell u... u guys couldnt have gotten them off with a simple allen key. how did u do it?
try one on a ratchet handle.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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They are definitely tight but I was able to get them off with a crescent wrench on the allen wrench. They are glued in with a thread locker.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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They are definitely tight but I was able to get them off with a crescent wrench on the allen wrench. They are glued in with a thread locker.
ahh im gona go crazy trying to get it off lol, im gona get some industrial hex bits for rachtets tmrw. i used to have some but ironicly lost the one i needed. and to top it off i have an allen key lost somewhere in my engine bay lol
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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ahh im gona go crazy trying to get it off lol, im gona get some industrial hex bits for rachtets tmrw. i used to have some but ironicly lost the one i needed. and to top it off i have an allen key lost somewhere in my engine bay lol
Spare metal items have a way of "finding" themselves at the least opportune time Get a powerful flashlight to look in the shadows...
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Spare metal items have a way of "finding" themselves at the least opportune time Get a powerful flashlight to look in the shadows...
ya lol, ur right abt tht. i tried looking for a good amount of time. now, once i get tht damn thing off i think im going to do the same thing u did. but i have a mechanical oil gauge. tht stock sensor is a bitch to get to eh?

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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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ya lol, ur right abt tht. i tried looking for a good amount of time. now, once i get tht damn thing off i think im going to do the same thing u did. but i have a mechanical oil gauge. tht stock sensor is a bitch to get to eh?
Bad news...you just can't get to the original sending unit without taking off the intake manifold -- just no way to get a wrench on it. The good news is that you don't need to buy anything...all the seals are rubber and reusable. Just keep everything super clean. I can't find a special made tool that you can use to remove the oil sending unit without removing the intake manifold. If anyone knows of one please post it!
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Bad news...you just can't get to the original sending unit without taking off the intake manifold -- just no way to get a wrench on it. The good news is that you don't need to buy anything...all the seals are rubber and reusable. Just keep everything super clean. I can't find a special made tool that you can use to remove the oil sending unit without removing the intake manifold. If anyone knows of one please post it!
i knew it!, i just didnt get around to it today becuase of the damn oil gally plug. you cant get it from under?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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i knew it!, i just didnt get around to it today becuase of the damn oil gally plug. you cant get it from under?
I couldn't....and I'm lazy If I could have done it without taking off the manifold I would have!
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Old May 21, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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I couldn't.
ughhh, theres so many damn bolts on tht manifold. but whts the point of a gauge if its not accurate. so ill move the stock sensor to the oil galley im trying desperately to get to and install the oil pres tube to the stock location
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Old May 21, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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ughhh, theres so many damn bolts on tht manifold. but whts the point of a gauge if its not accurate. so ill move the stock sensor to the oil galley im trying desperately to get to and install the oil pres tube to the stock location
Really the manifold is a piece-of-cake. The biggest headache is the plastic wire loom holders. Look for all of them. Also there is a 10MM bolt holding the oil tube bracket to the manifold -- another "fun" and easy to get to location Are you using the plastic tubing?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Really the manifold is a piece-of-cake. The biggest headache is the plastic wire loom holders. Look for all of them. Also there is a 10MM bolt holding the oil tube bracket to the manifold -- another "fun" and easy to get to location Are you using the plastic tubing?
ya but i had to buy 12 feet to i can safely clear everything with no kinks. so i bought autometers 12 ft special vynil tubing for oil pres, not wht came with my guage. supposed to be safe... i hope.... do i have to be worried abt the vynil tube rubbing against hot parts? thts the main reason i bought the extra tube. im convinced tht if done rite is just as safe as any other gauge.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Just run the tube along the existing wire looms that will keep it away from sharp edges and hot spots -- cover it with 1/4" black plastic wire loom and it will "disappear" in the engine compartment.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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i do a long extension with an elbow and a 1 1/8 deep well socket. thats how i got mine off. and then went i put on my 2.4 manifold the sending unit wouldn't fit so i had to get a 45 degree elbow from autometer.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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i do a long extension with an elbow and a 1 1/8 deep well socket. thats how i got mine off. and then went i put on my 2.4 manifold the sending unit wouldn't fit so i had to get a 45 degree elbow from autometer.
thts wht im doing, but i wont have to worry abt any sending unit, im running oil to the gauge.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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wtf?????what hole do i want to get a reading from the block????? pics
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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wtf?????what hole do i want to get a reading from the block????? pics
I used the oil galley hole that the original sending unit was in and repositioned the original sending unit to the center oil galley of the rear cylinder head. BUT the partial sweep sending unit (electric gauge) is too big for where the original sending unit was because it hits the intake manifold so I had to remote install it.

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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ohh **** that. i don't have the time or exp. to remove manifold. guess ill just use the other hole
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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ohh **** that. i don't have the time or exp. to remove manifold. guess ill just use the other hole
That will work, you just won't read oil block pressure.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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mind telling me where you found that gauge piller at? :O
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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mind telling me where you found that gauge piller at? :O
I purchased it from CED for around a $110. It's expensive because it comes with the boost gauge.

Want to buy a new SS/SC boost gauge cheap?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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No thanks, nothing i could really do with it sence im not boosting :O

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